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Old 16-07-22, 07:48   #91
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Why? Why shouldn't it be someone's right to express how they want to be addressed?

I'll give you an example: I work in a multinational company, with over 10000 employees - so I don't really know everybody there in person.
One day, someone called Tracy wrote me an E-mail, asking for my support. We exchanged quite a few messages, until I realized, that Tracy actually was a guy. I've addressed him with "her" for quite a few e-mails before he corrected me (in a polite way).
So a person, I will probably never see in real life, and for whom I will probably never have any indication on how he looks like, asked me to use "he/him" when talking about him, as this is how he is "correctly" addressed. What difference does it make, if he is actually male? I don't know how he looks like anyway, so what do I care?

How is this any different to any other person, stating their pronouns, asking people to use them when talking about them. How does that make them narcissistic? It baffles me, how you people seem to go completely overboard with your reasoning, just to demonstrate your "un-wokeness".
If I would ask you to adress to me as ,, God All Mighty ruler of the univers and creator of galaxies, bringer of life and death, wellspring of suffering and joy, he with thousands of names’’ would you do it? Oh and it has to be full name without missing a word.
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Old 16-07-22, 08:11   #92
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If I would ask you to adress to me as ,, God All Mighty ruler of the univers and creator of galaxies, bringer of life and death, wellspring of suffering and joy, he with thousands of names’’ would you do it? Oh and it has to be full name without missing a word.
Would you please Do us all a favor and stop talking about a topic you so clearly dont understand and have respect for.
Making Light out of a very Real thing that drives people into Depression, Suicide, years of surpressing who they are, is downright disgusting.
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Old 16-07-22, 08:17   #93
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How simple pronouns could trigger poeple that much ? Especially in 2022. All of this looks like 2017 for me and we're still stuck there ?
I don't know how this could affect the next Tomb Raider story. I agree nowadays series and films lack subtlety when they tried to send a message. All should be obvious and on the nose for them. Maybe that is why some of you are afraid ?
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Old 16-07-22, 08:56   #94
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10 pages of misguided “discourse” over some pronouns in a bio. What effect do pronouns and gender identity have on the ability to tell a story? I beg detractors to give me serious examples where pronoun discourse and usage have infiltrated the media they consume in such a way that it has diminished the quality of a final product.

OT: best of luck to the writer
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Old 16-07-22, 09:14   #95
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I hope the writer is woke as **** and makes Lara a polyamorous genderfluid social justice warrior feminist who robs museums of artefacts and returns them back to their original place of origin using non lethal weapons to dispose of her enemies just to see the boomers of the fandom suffer in agony.

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Seriously though, what is your problem guys? Some people use "them" to refer to themselves, why is it an issue? If you can't understand it at least don't be all pissy about it, it's embarrassing
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Old 16-07-22, 09:44   #96
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They/them have been used as a singular pronoun for decades. Honestly, unless the way someone identifies impacts your life in a horrible way, just leave them be. (Oh would you look how easy it is to refer to someone as them, an guess what, the world didn’t implode).

I don’t normally get involved in conversations like this, the way someone identifies has absolute zero impact in my life. You want me to call you they/them fine, you want me to call you it/thing fine. I’ll respect another human being because I would like to think of myself as decent and respectful. Also, if you have such a massive problem referring to them by their (oh look done it again) pronouns, here’s a mind blowing alternative for you. Use their (oh look again) names instead?

I know, crazy, right?
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Old 16-07-22, 09:45   #97
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There are more people moaning about thr moaning at this point. Can we just move on?

Like I said earlier, before the drama swallowed it up, I'm hoping the story is going to be a more simple affair this time. A simple, but interesting and effective chase the artifact story that can be slotted in around the game. In that sense a writer coming on mid project isn't all that worrying.
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Old 16-07-22, 10:18   #98
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If I would ask you to adress to me as ,, God All Mighty ruler of the univers and creator of galaxies, bringer of life and death, wellspring of suffering and joy, he with thousands of names’’ would you do it? Oh and it has to be full name without missing a word.
I'm sorry, but what a shockingly stupid and devastatingly idiotic way to view this topic...

The usual suspects will be the first to moan, groan in misery and demand "respect from the devs", when Belinda (inevitabely and rightfully) badmouthes TRF like Rhianna did before her...of that I'm 100% certain.
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The fact the story and lines aren't completed only means that they're not ready to record and mocap the cutscenes. Still, gameplay and levels should be quite advanced by now, at least the outline.
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Old 16-07-22, 10:22   #100
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Would you please Do us all a favor and stop talking about a topic you so clearly dont understand and have respect for.
Making Light out of a very Real thing that drives people into Depression, Suicide, years of surpressing who they are, is downright disgusting.
Would you please stop being against everyone just to be cool? I was just pointing out how stupid it is? It flew right over your head did it not?
People like you that pretend to understand the suffering of others know nothing of it.
You can indentify as whatever you want just dont force me to change the way I speak, the way we all used words for thousands of years.
How would you know about contemplating suicide? Do you know anything of it? Or you just talking to show that you are supportive of trans people.
It seems that you want supremacy of a certain group.
I want equality for all individuals regardless of who they are or they think they are. I want to be able to dissagree with other without being labeled as racist or transphob. Cause me not agreeing with changing the meaning of pronouns to whatever each individuals wants too does not equal I want trans people to suffer or die or change themselves.
But in this years no one can speak their minds. We others that have other opinions need to shut up cause others may be suffering out there. Newsflash, most of these vocal people they did not struggle or suffered at all. And this way they diminish the struggle and suffering of trans that really had a hard life.
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