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Shirley_Manson · 18-03-23, 08:53

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Originally Posted by Flame_Knights

I don't know what the connection between woke and shark is.

Whales? The land variety?

Everything becomes political in hard times.

charmedangelin · 18-03-23, 10:51

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Originally Posted by Flame_Knights

I don't think Lara is a progressive nor a conservative, she sees all political debate in the world as noise.
she just be herself.
Of course, Reboot Lara should be liberal, I'm pretty sure.

Core Lara completely rejected the British aristocrats. I think she'd be a lot more liberal than people give her credit for.

jajay119 · 18-03-23, 12:02

Core Lara at her origin level shares a lot more with reboot Lara than LAU Lara. People seem to forget this.

jeffrey van oort · 18-03-23, 13:33

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Originally Posted by Flame_Knights

I don't know what the connection between woke and shark is.
If the harpoon gun is useful, I will support it!

Woke in reverse is ekow. In Dutch that means something like I chew. So with what do you chew? With your jaws. And jaws happens to be a film about sharks.

How Lara is (a) shark. <3

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Originally Posted by Shirley_Manson

Whales? The land variety?

Everything becomes political in hard times.

Papyrus contained the first written rule. I suppose a law. Not wood, or stone. These are myths. Ass paper nowadays. Oh well.

Flame_Knights · 18-03-23, 13:53

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Originally Posted by charmedangelin

Core Lara completely rejected the British aristocrats. I think she'd be a lot more liberal than people give her credit for.

I mean, you can see left-wing colors and right-wing colors in classic Lara, which shows that she is a person who is herself!

**Dennis's Mom** · 18-03-23, 15:55

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Maybe I just missed it, but what exactly was "political" about the reboot Tomb Raider games?

Well, you've gotten some answers, but I don't think any of them correct.

The original Lara Croft always had the problem of, despite being pleasing to the eyes, not needing a man to guide her or influence her. She did not exist relative to men. She did not need "protecting" which CD announced was a main goal with TReboot Lara.

Despite everyone claiming this is "woke", I feel that the opposite is true. The traditional male gamer simply has no idea what to do with a female character that doesn't need a man's approval or protection.

So they weakened the most "Lara" characteristics of all: independence and a sang froid that doesn't fit in with a given definition of femininity. Far from woke, they made a Lara that exhibits from more appropriate motivations and characteristics for a woman.

Which sounds more "woke"?

Woman who bucks society's expectations to go off to lonely abandoned places because she is completely happy on her own and needs no one's approval? Would not get the kitchen and make you a sandwich.

Or:

Woman who is driven by and influenced by men in her life, who serves the needs of others, even the dead, and absorbs their crises and problems as her driving force? Would totally get in the kitchen and make you a sandwich.

They did decrease TReboot Lara's bosom, although I think that is more to keep Lara from being a joke, and let's face it, Lara was a joke because of her bosom. She shouldn't have been, but we have to take the world as we find it and not how it should be. Once sex enters the equation for a woman, nothing else matters. Lara was rich, titled, educated, athletic, a weapons expert, could translate several dead languages, could fly a plane and a helicopter, and was literally fearless, but what most people would talk about was her generous bosom.

Even at a Tomb Raider board, people still treat her bosom as a defining characteristic, the reduction of which destroyed all of her other qualities because in the world as we find it, intelligence, courage, skill are generated in the boobs, not in the brain.

jeffrey van oort · 18-03-23, 19:21

Absolutely marvelous that such a perspective derived from a character that is fictional. She is as fictional as your computer screen, and yet role modelling. Forging opinions about classy chassis. Do you think that females don't look at each other in that way? The fantasy is to be someone you've romanticised to be the image of perfection. And this thread proved yet again, how nice it is to have one. A rolemodel. Now where is my Polaroid?

HarleyCroft · 18-03-23, 20:15

Remember when Willard called Tony "retarded"? TR3 was really something else.

Quebsenuef · 18-03-23, 21:20

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Remember when Willard called Tony "retarded"? TR3 was really something else.

Or the underground leader dude being upset he can’t masturbate anymore and asks Lara for some help with that embalming fluid?

TR3 really was something else! Hahaha

**Dennis's Mom** · 18-03-23, 21:22

TR3 is a real outlier of the games, IMO. I don't think Core really considered what it had Lara doing, and I think they worked really hard to backpedal with TR4, giving Lara a deeper character with friends and fatigue.

They tried to tell more story, but didn't really think about how they were telling the story.

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jajay119 Tomb Raider Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 24,215	Core Lara at her origin level shares a lot more with reboot Lara than LAU Lara. People seem to forget this. __________________ ... in my opinion.

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jeffrey van oort Relic Hunter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 6,511	Absolutely marvelous that such a perspective derived from a character that is fictional. She is as fictional as your computer screen, and yet role modelling. Forging opinions about classy chassis. Do you think that females don't look at each other in that way? The fantasy is to be someone you've romanticised to be the image of perfection. And this thread proved yet again, how nice it is to have one. A rolemodel. Now where is my Polaroid? __________________ Flames would not be eternal if they could dissolve.

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HarleyCroft Professor Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Coulrophilia Posts: 4,214	Remember when Willard called Tony "retarded"? TR3 was really something else. __________________ Well if that ain't aren't the isn't

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Dennis's Mom Moderator Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: "running my mouth" Posts: 16,438	TR3 is a real outlier of the games, IMO. I don't think Core really considered what it had Lara doing, and I think they worked really hard to backpedal with TR4, giving Lara a deeper character with friends and fatigue. They tried to tell more story, but didn't really think about how they were telling the story. __________________ Don’t allow men who hate women to define feminism as women who hate men. Last edited by Dennis's Mom; 18-03-23 at 21:24.