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Old 12-09-19, 15:46   #41
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Hello everybody, I was replaying Rise recentely and I couldn't help but feel taken out of the game as in loss of immersion when Konstantin out of the blue gets posessed by Manfred Powell and starts mimicing everything he says in TR2001 in a way that seems taken straight out of a fan parody video or another crazy croft. I cringed so hard that I had to pause the game and laugh out loud before I could resume playing. It happened in all my playthroughs of Rise bc it is a scene that instead of getting us all shocked and sad for Lara (or angry) the scene ends up being there for comic relief. Not to mention it is such a huge cliché...

What did you think of this particular scene?
I did not see that twist coming...

Of course I am being sarcastic. The trilogy script was awful. Not just this scene.
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Old 12-09-19, 23:54   #42
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Right?? :/

It takes so much away from the character for an old, overused and cliche plot. Richard is always this great world renowned archaeologist who was assassinated and that always seems to solve all of Lara's mysteries and adventures for her. Lara feels like little more than a henchman at this point.
Well you can't have a solo female protagonist, there has to be some male she's emulating or continuing the work of. Hollywood right?

I liked Classic Lara so much because she broke the mould. Sure, her father had been on some archaeological trips in his youth like a lot of aristocrats at the time, but his expeditions would have been a world away from what Lara does, hence the aversion and eventual disowning.

I can picture Henshingly's trips involved more tea and crumpets than traps and deadly pitfalls.

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Old 13-09-19, 01:26   #43
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Well you can't have a solo female protagonist, there has to be some male she's emulating or continuing the work of. Hollywood right?
Pretty much spot on unfortunately.
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I liked Classic Lara so much because she broke the mould. Sure, her father had been on some archaeological trips in his youth like a lot of aristocrats at the time, but his expeditions would have been a world away from what Lara does, hence the aversion and eventual disowning.

I can picture Henshingly's trips involved more tea and crumpets than traps and deadly pitfalls.
Totally agree.

I can 100% picture Lord Henshingly sitting on a table with a bunch of fat, old and moustached men drinking tea and being absolutely appalled that his daughter, a high born lady would be delighted to be acting as 'the help' and is getting her hands dirty on site.
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Old 13-09-19, 10:02   #44
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I can't even remember that he said that. Nonetheless, it doesn't really bother me that much. I have no feelings about it strangely enough. Can't say whether it's good or not
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Old 13-09-19, 17:02   #45
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I can 100% picture Lord Henshingly sitting on a table with a bunch of fat, old and moustached men drinking tea and being absolutely appalled that his daughter, a high born lady would be delighted to be acting as 'the help' and is getting her hands dirty on site.
Henshingly would definitely have been someone to frequent the brandy room on the Titanic. XD

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Old 14-09-19, 03:13   #46
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Oh absolutely, I have no doubt about it!
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Old 16-09-19, 21:05   #47
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Well you can't have a solo female protagonist, there has to be some male she's emulating or continuing the work of. Hollywood right?

I liked Classic Lara so much because she broke the mould. Sure, her father had been on some archaeological trips in his youth like a lot of aristocrats at the time, but his expeditions would have been a world away from what Lara does, hence the aversion and eventual disowning.

I can picture Henshingly's trips involved more tea and crumpets than traps and deadly pitfalls.
I can't remember the article but someone had written about how Lara's mother being her tomb raiding predecessor would have been better. I agree with that, as it would be show strong women throughout the generations instead of tying her to a man's legacy. Although Lara being independent would be preferable.

Really though, I don't think of her backstory in the Core games. I just think of the characters as things happen. I mean usually I just skip the cutscenes as I've seen them before anyway.
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Old 16-09-19, 21:33   #48
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^ It really would. It still takes away a bit from the character when you compare it to the original Core bio, but at least it wouldn't fall on the cliche of there always being a man as a reason for a woman to be a bad ass or pretty just independent.
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Old 17-09-19, 10:15   #49
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it wouldn't fall on the cliche of there always being a man as a reason for a woman to be a bad ass or pretty just independent.
well, everything becomes a cliche if you oversimply it in such a manner.
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Old 17-09-19, 23:27   #50
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well, everything becomes a cliche if you oversimply it in such a manner.
nah i'd agree with you on a general basis but hollywood really has manufactured this cliché and injected it into pop culture.
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