Tomb Raider on different PS1's

onimush · 22-04-19, 23:58

I have two PS1's: One very early model(1995) and one from ~1997 and they are not the same.

Early PS1 has not so advanced GPU, so there is some color banding ( like on PC in 256 color software mode). Even Sega Saturn hasn't such issues.

It is safe to say that most people who played TR on the release in 96, saw the game as it is on the left and not the way we know it now. It is not surprising that people so admired the 3dfx version in 96)

Kapu · 23-04-19, 00:36

Wow, the original version suffered pretty badly from the color banding. Thanks for sharing the comparison pics! I had the fancy slim PSone, so I always got to play the smooth looking version.

**klona** · 23-04-19, 00:44

The color banding gives the columns ridges like greek columns.

Boobandie · 23-04-19, 04:50

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Originally Posted by klona

The color banding gives the columns ridges like greek columns.

Lara's arms as well.

b122251 · 25-04-19, 05:48

My PS1 debug kit has the older GPU. I just assumed this was some strange detail in the early debug models.

Woops · 25-04-19, 05:53

Ok first off you are very brave playing the PAL version on an actual console tbh, can't imagine the pain

Anyway this is really interesting, I've never seen the same in an emulator

I wonder if it's just not enough accurate emulation or do most emulators work on the newer models

I know Mednafen is pretty strict about the BIOS usage and requires one of the 550x series to work properly.

onimush · 25-04-19, 19:45

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Originally Posted by b122251

My PS1 debug kit has the older GPU. I just assumed this was some strange detail in the early debug models.

Blue debug console = old gpu , green =new.

onimush · 25-04-19, 19:56

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Originally Posted by Woops

Anyway this is really interesting, I've never seen the same in an emulator

I wonder if it's just not enough accurate emulation or do most emulators work on the newer models

I know Mednafen is pretty strict about the BIOS usage and requires one of the 550x series to work properly.

There is old gpu plugin https://psx.amidog.se/doku.php?id=psx:download:gpu (It seems to be for epsxe but I'm not sure )

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Originally Posted by Woops

Ok first off you are very brave playing the PAL version on an actual console tbh, can't imagine the pain

Pal version has higher resolution and relaxing gameplay speed. I like it more. However Screenshots are from ntsc version.

Greatest TR · 25-04-19, 21:27

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Originally Posted by Woops

Ok first off you are very brave playing the PAL version on an actual console tbh, can't imagine the pain

How is that brave and pain? I played it all the time on PAL version with SCPH 1002 Playstation console, I still play it to this day and it's still bloody great!

veigafd · 25-04-19, 23:55

I can't shake the feeling that this put the game in a more nostalgic and stylish way

22-04-19, 23:58	#1
onimush Hobbyist Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 23	Tomb Raider on different PS1's I have two PS1's: One very early model(1995) and one from ~1997 and they are not the same. Early PS1 has not so advanced GPU, so there is some color banding ( like on PC in 256 color software mode). Even Sega Saturn hasn't such issues. It is safe to say that most people who played TR on the release in 96, saw the game as it is on the left and not the way we know it now. It is not surprising that people so admired the 3dfx version in 96)

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klona Gold Contributor Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,963	The color banding gives the columns ridges like greek columns. __________________ Never felt that, never heard of that, never tasted that, never smelled that...

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Kapu Professor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northwoods of Wisconsin Posts: 3,355	Wow, the original version suffered pretty badly from the color banding. Thanks for sharing the comparison pics! I had the fancy slim PSone, so I always got to play the smooth looking version.

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b122251 Explorer Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 574	My PS1 debug kit has the older GPU. I just assumed this was some strange detail in the early debug models.

25-04-19, 05:53	#6
Woops Explorer Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 923	Ok first off you are very brave playing the PAL version on an actual console tbh, can't imagine the pain Anyway this is really interesting, I've never seen the same in an emulator I wonder if it's just not enough accurate emulation or do most emulators work on the newer models I know Mednafen is pretty strict about the BIOS usage and requires one of the 550x series to work properly.