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Old 17-10-18, 23:59   #111
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The word transvestite isn't offensive but the way it's used is. It's like someone saying tranny. As a trans person if someone was to say that word who wasn't trans to describe me would be using the word out of context. I'm just saying to say someone looks like a transvestite is and can be offensive because your using it in a negative way.
I didn't call you a tranny or a transvestite.

I agree with the context you gave in the example but that's not what happened.

I didn't use it in a negative way at all. It was a blunt and neautral observation.

Lara looks like a transvestite with that mod.

I do not think she looks "trans" or "transgender." My statement has nothing to do with a transgendered person.

In that picture, with that mod, she looks (in my opinion) like a man dressing up as a woman. Which is what a transvestite is.

And NOT what a transgender person is.
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Old 18-10-18, 00:03   #112
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This Lara wasn't developed to use makeup at all. Even though the mod is cool.
Someone could make a mod where you could use any outfit in paititiland. Now that would be awesome.
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Old 18-10-18, 00:06   #113
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This Lara wasn't developed to use makeup at all. Even though the mod is cool.
Someone could make a mod where you could use any outfit in paititiland. Now that would be awesome.
She wears the normal outfits in the benchmarks.

Which is the biggest middle finger lol


I don't mind wearing the forced outfit when you're breaking into to free Unuratu but anything else is like :/ ugh...
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Old 18-10-18, 02:58   #114
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Looks awful to me
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Old 18-10-18, 03:04   #115
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I don't mean to aggravate the subject even more, but to me the way you (SoraSakai) said she looks like a transvestite felt like you said it in a way that it sounded like an insult, transvestite is perceived mostly as a slur mostly due to being used as an insult for many years, cross dresser (which is what I assume you were referring to) is a more acceptable term now.

we shouldn't be quick to attack someone, she might just not be knowledgable of the subject
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Old 18-10-18, 03:23   #116
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I don't mean to aggravate the subject even more, but to me the way you (SoraSakai) said she looks like a transvestite felt like you said it in a way that it sounded like an insult, transvestite is perceived mostly as a slur mostly due to being used as an insult for many years, cross dresser (which is what I assume you were referring to) is a more acceptable term now.

we shouldn't be quick to attack someone, she might just not be knowledgable of the subject
I'm very knowledgeable of the subject.

You're right though. I don't like it because she looks like a transvestite because Lara isnt a transvestite. So in that context, yes it's a negative. It would be the same as me not liking the fact that 2013 Lara looks Asian. She shouldn't look Asian because she isn't Asian.

Just like I don't think she should look like a man cross dressing because she isn't a transvestite.

All that's happened here is some people stupidly confused the difference between "transgender" and "transvestite".

It's only an insult in the context of calling a transgender person a "transvestite" which isn't what I did at all.

Cross dressing is a form of transvestism, you're absolutely right. The word "transvestite", by itself is not an offensive term. The way I used it also wasn't offensive or derogatory of anyone.
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Old 18-10-18, 03:27   #117
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I'm very knowledgeable of the subject.

You're right though. I don't like it because she looks like a transvestite because Lara isnt a transvestite. So in that context, yes it's a negative. It would be the same as me not liking the fact that 2013 Lara looks Asian. She shouldn't look Asian because she isn't Asian.

Just like I don't think she should look like a man cross dressing because she isn't a transvestite.

All that's happened here is some people stupidly confused the difference between "transgender" and "transvestite".

It's only an insult in the context of calling a transgender person a "transvestite" which isn't what I did at all.

Cross dressing is a form of transvestism, you're absolutely right. The word "transvestite", by itself is not an offensive term. The way I used it also wasn't offensive or derogatory of anyone.
No honey, I did not confuse both of them. I said there were people who cross dress that didn't realize they were transgenders. Not every transgender knows what they are since child age. Because hey, I actually met some of them!

But nooooo, you're the one who is right. The last few pages have very clearly shown how knowledgeable of the subject you are.
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Old 18-10-18, 03:33   #118
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No honey, I did not confuse both of them. I said there were people who cross dress that didn't realize they were transgenders. Not every transgender knows what they are since child age. Because hey, I actually met some of them!

But nooooo, you're the one who is right. The last few pages have very clearly shown how knowledgeable of the subject you are.
That's right.

I am correct.

I didn't call any transgender person a transvestite.

So your statement is irrelevant.

Stop looking for something to be offended over. It looks exhausting.
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Old 18-10-18, 09:28   #119
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I prefer the normal model, this mod looks like a bad contouring job, which I suppose, it is.
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Old 18-10-18, 09:50   #120
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I am so confused here....
So from what I personally understand..

Transvestite = someone who dresses us as the other sex

Transgender = someone who wants to BE the opposite sex.

From what I can see.. they are two different things. Much like guys who drag act. They aren't always transgender and are simply dressing up to entertain.. right?

I'll admit that I also thought what SoraSakai said.. but I perhaps would have worded it differently.
Maybe she looks like a clown etc
(Not that I am insinuating transvestites look like clowns)

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