Shadow of the Tomb Raider - General Chat

[Blackmoor]

Originally Posted by RAID

It's true, side quest like fetch the dice suck big-time.

I know, what were they thinking?

Quests for npcs have no place in my TR world. If they write a strong story and have strong gameplay, they don't need to pad out the game with these kind of things.

[Costel]

Originally Posted by Blackmoor

I know, what were they thinking?

Quests for npcs have no place in my TR world. If they write a strong story and have strong gameplay, they don't need to pad out the game with these kind of things.

True. I wish they ditch side quests and even side collectables like documents and relics. Keep just the side tombs as extra content and expand the main tombs. I remember playing once just the main story for both Rise and Shadow and it takes 5-10 minutes to raid a main tomb all being too linear. The rest of time you spend climbing stuff and shooting bad guys. It is a shame that for a game called Tomb Raider the raiding part is less than the shooting part.
Also both Rise and Shadow are more fun when playing just through the main story without giving a **** about side content.

[RAID]

Originally Posted by Blackmoor

I know, what were they thinking?

Quests for npcs have no place in my TR world. If they write a strong story and have strong gameplay, they don't need to pad out the game with these kind of things.

Originally Posted by Costel

True. I wish they ditch side quests and even side collectables like documents and relics. Keep just the side tombs as extra content and expand the main tombs.

Also both Rise and Shadow are more fun when playing just through the main story without giving a **** about side content.

Yes. I thought I was the only one who hates any form of side quests

[OrangeJuice]

the issue isn't the fact that they're fetch quests. pretty much everything in a videogame is (back to the og tomb raider games, it was mostly just a matter of "fetch that key to open this gate").
it's all in the journey: if fetching that damn dice had been fun we would probably have no issue with it.

they have a great engine here with lots of mechanics, it's an incredible tool for creative level design but they almost never use it that way... and when they do, it's always interrupted by forced walking sections, lara explaining everything out loud, wall fissures you have to squeeze through, unskippable uninteresting dialogue with npcs and, worst of all, uneven traversal rules.

[malferink]

Originally Posted by OrangeJuice

the issue isn't the fact that they're fetch quests. pretty much everything in a videogame is (back to the og tomb raider games, it was mostly just a matter of "fetch that key to open this gate").
it's all in the journey: if fetching that damn dice had been fun we would probably have no issue with it.

they have a great engine here with lots of mechanics, it's an incredible tool for creative level design but they almost never use it that way... and when they do, it's always interrupted by forced walking sections, lara explaining everything out loud, wall fissures you have to squeeze through, unskippable uninteresting dialogue with npcs and, worst of all, uneven traversal rules.

This is a really strong point!

Side quests can leave imo, but the documents and relics can be fun/interesting. If there are as much of them as in TR13, and if they are as interesting as most of rise's, I see no problem with them staying.

[Chamayoo]

Originally Posted by malferink

This is a really strong point!

Side quests can leave imo, but the documents and relics can be fun/interesting. If there are as much of them as in TR13, and if they are as interesting as most of rise's, I see no problem with them staying.

I don't have much a problem either but would be better if they were really hidden next time. Also a real reward when we collect them all, getting a "100%" score isn't enough satisfying in my opinion.

[killchan]

Originally Posted by Blackmoor

I know, what were they thinking?

Quests for npcs have no place in my TR world. If they write a strong story and have strong gameplay, they don't need to pad out the game with these kind of things.

Quest just needed to be more than a "follow the quest marker" type of deal.
Coming from self-proclaimed developers of modern immersive sims, I expected those quests to at least come with some level of thought process involved.
Not here.
Mission: find the person
Notes: nothing. Just open the map and go there, or press the magic button

[RAID]

Originally Posted by killchan

Quest just needed to be more than a "follow the quest marker" type of deal.

This is something I hate about open world games. I much prefer to be in a confined space and use my brain to solve puzzles and riddles.

[Cinzel]

I didn't play Shadow of the Tomb Raider. I saw a let's play on youtube and I feel like I didn't miss anything because the main game is all cutscenes.

[AntRaidsTombs]

Originally Posted by Cinzel

I didn't play Shadow of the Tomb Raider. I saw a let's play on youtube and I feel like I didn't miss anything because the main game is all cutscenes.

This is the case with most games anyway lol. Shadow didn’t have that many cutscenes, whoever played it most likely rushed through everything just to finish the game lol.