Tomb Raider: The Angel of Darkness Rescued - Page 20

LateRaider · 10-08-21, 19:40

That's less encouraging. I feel like I'd mess this up really badly. I'll send you my Discord though and maybe I can be walked through the process but I'm pretty much a dumbass at this kind of thing. It took me over a day to figure out how to edit text in Java :\

But anyway, I sent you a PM. Let me know when you've added me!

Jathom95 · 10-08-21, 19:44

Keep us up to speed Late. Hopefully something can be done.

Sasho, while you're here, I'm wondering about something related to the controls myself if you don't mind.

TRJTA · 10-08-21, 20:23

Welcome back Sasho! I really hope you can help out with these final touchups of the controls of this game. Your patch is o loved but a few bits could use improvements and s few additional changes would be very welcome!

LateRaider · 10-08-21, 20:55

Sasho has shown me how to improve the basic walking/running speed with the stock PC tank controls!

I haven't extensively tested it but it seems to work very well. It's equivalent to the speed in his patch. You can find it offered in the opening post as well as here. I have yet to test it.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qSb...ew?usp=sharing

I want to implement stair moves next, and then I want to ask him to help me look into the gallop backward. TR:AoD Tank Plus is officially in beta!

TRJTA · 10-08-21, 20:58

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Originally Posted by LateRaider

Sasho has shown me how to improve the basic walking speed!

I haven't extensively tested it but it seems to work very well. It's equivalent to the speed in his patch. You can find it offered in the opening post as well as here.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qSb...ew?usp=sharing

I want to implement stair moves next, and then I want to ask him to help me look into the gallop backward. TR:AoD Tank Plus is officially in beta!

Omg that's amazing news! I really hope the roll/switch target key can be maples differently too so we can officially remove the combat camera.

sasho648 · 10-08-21, 21:07

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Originally Posted by LateRaider

Sasho has shown me how to improve the basic walking speed!

I haven't extensively tested it but it seems to work very well. It's equivalent to the speed in his patch. You can find it offered in the opening post as well as here. I have yet to test it.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qSb...ew?usp=sharing

I want to implement stair moves next, and then I want to ask him to help me look into the gallop backward. TR:AoD Tank Plus is officially in beta!

He is a fast learner. But overall I'm working on something that would enable us to all be able more easily modify this game.

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Originally Posted by TRJTA

Welcome back Sasho! I really hope you can help out with these final touchups of the controls of this game. Your patch is o loved but a few bits could use improvements and s few additional changes would be very welcome!

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Jathom95

Keep us up to speed Late. Hopefully something can be done.

Sasho, while you're here, I'm wondering about something related to the controls myself if you don't mind.

I would just share it here.

LateRaider · 10-08-21, 21:15

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Originally Posted by TRJTA

Omg that's amazing news! I really hope the roll/switch target key can be maples differently too so we can officially remove the combat camera.

I want to talk to Sasho about enabling some moves while on stairs and maybe backward gallop if he has time. Anything else I ask him about will wait until after and may not be a part of Tank Plus.

Jathom95 · 10-08-21, 21:22

Of course, we need to get the essentials taken care of first.

I do think removing the combat camera would be a Quality of Life tweak, it's far too sensitive in vanilla to be useful. And other than a few small issues that can possibly be fixed, it effectively makes shooting work overall like 1-5 minus the shooting while jumping, etc.

But to make that tweak work intuitively, we'd really need to see if moving backward could be changed to the gallop like you've said so it would effectively work the same way. And the biggest thing would be making sure that swapping targets still works properly.

But at least we know how to disable it at all thanks to Nakamichi.

LateRaider · 10-08-21, 21:31

The most effective way I could think of doing that is separating Switch Targets from Roll, putting it on Stealth, and making it so you can't go into Stealth mode with a weapon out. But that seems so complicated.

Edit - Reborninshadow actually just told me Kurtis has Sprint Mode available, so I want to ask Sasho if we can add that. But that'll be it for Tank Plus.

1. Movement speeds of Walk Mode and Run Mode are equivalent to those of sasho648's TR:AoD Recovery Patch v6.6.3. - DONE! (Credit: sasho648)

2. Walk-to-run transition for Run Mode is removed. - DONE! (Credit - Reborninshadow)

3. Player characters no longer swerve while executing Hop. - DONE! (Credit - nakamichi680)

4. Kurtis is permitted to execute Sprint Mode.

5. The actions for Roll, Side-step, Stealth Mode, and Sprint Mode are permitted while player character is on stairs.

6. When pressing Down Cursor Key or equivalent function, player characters gallop backward as if locked onto a target during Combat Mode. They would still walk backward in in Walk Mode while the Walk Key is held down.

The sixth point will likely be the most difficult to implement, and therefore it may not make it into the final release.

Jathom95 · 10-08-21, 21:44

Edit: Nevermind.

10-08-21, 19:40	#191
LateRaider Inactive Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 3,594	That's less encouraging. I feel like I'd mess this up really badly. I'll send you my Discord though and maybe I can be walked through the process but I'm pretty much a dumbass at this kind of thing. It took me over a day to figure out how to edit text in Java :\ But anyway, I sent you a PM. Let me know when you've added me! Last edited by LateRaider; 10-08-21 at 19:44.

10-08-21, 19:44	#192
Jathom95 Archaeologist Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: United States Posts: 1,416	Keep us up to speed Late. Hopefully something can be done. Sasho, while you're here, I'm wondering about something related to the controls myself if you don't mind. __________________ "Rodents, I wouldn't wonder. Big rodents."

10-08-21, 20:55	#194
LateRaider Inactive Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 3,594	Sasho has shown me how to improve the basic walking/running speed with the stock PC tank controls! I haven't extensively tested it but it seems to work very well. It's equivalent to the speed in his patch. You can find it offered in the opening post as well as here. I have yet to test it. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qSb...ew?usp=sharing I want to implement stair moves next, and then I want to ask him to help me look into the gallop backward. TR:AoD Tank Plus is officially in beta! Last edited by LateRaider; 11-08-21 at 07:56.

10-08-21, 21:22	#198
Jathom95 Archaeologist Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: United States Posts: 1,416	Of course, we need to get the essentials taken care of first. I do think removing the combat camera would be a Quality of Life tweak, it's far too sensitive in vanilla to be useful. And other than a few small issues that can possibly be fixed, it effectively makes shooting work overall like 1-5 minus the shooting while jumping, etc. But to make that tweak work intuitively, we'd really need to see if moving backward could be changed to the gallop like you've said so it would effectively work the same way. And the biggest thing would be making sure that swapping targets still works properly. But at least we know how to disable it at all thanks to Nakamichi. __________________ "Rodents, I wouldn't wonder. Big rodents." Last edited by Jathom95; 10-08-21 at 21:32.

10-08-21, 21:31	#199
LateRaider Inactive Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 3,594	The most effective way I could think of doing that is separating Switch Targets from Roll, putting it on Stealth, and making it so you can't go into Stealth mode with a weapon out. But that seems so complicated. Edit - Reborninshadow actually just told me Kurtis has Sprint Mode available, so I want to ask Sasho if we can add that. But that'll be it for Tank Plus. 1. Movement speeds of Walk Mode and Run Mode are equivalent to those of sasho648's TR:AoD Recovery Patch v6.6.3. - DONE! (Credit: sasho648) 2. Walk-to-run transition for Run Mode is removed. - DONE! (Credit - Reborninshadow) 3. Player characters no longer swerve while executing Hop. - DONE! (Credit - nakamichi680) 4. Kurtis is permitted to execute Sprint Mode. 5. The actions for Roll, Side-step, Stealth Mode, and Sprint Mode are permitted while player character is on stairs. 6. When pressing Down Cursor Key or equivalent function, player characters gallop backward as if locked onto a target during Combat Mode. They would still walk backward in in Walk Mode while the Walk Key is held down. The sixth point will likely be the most difficult to implement, and therefore it may not make it into the final release. Last edited by LateRaider; 11-08-21 at 06:54.

10-08-21, 20:23	#193
TRJTA Professor Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,200	Welcome back Sasho! I really hope you can help out with these final touchups of the controls of this game. Your patch is o loved but a few bits could use improvements and s few additional changes would be very welcome!

10-08-21, 21:44	#200
Jathom95 Archaeologist Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: United States Posts: 1,416	Edit: Nevermind. __________________ "Rodents, I wouldn't wonder. Big rodents." Last edited by Jathom95; 10-08-21 at 21:49.