Who is Xian?

Feder · 01-11-21, 18:01

I was checking the story concept of TRII and I realized there is no mention of this "Xian" person, which is odd because the dagger is his, and he even has a temple built in his name.

I always assumed it was the emperor's name, but it turns out his name was Qin Shihuang.

That could mean the dagger is an even older artifact, which story and origins is still unknown.

So, the final question remains, who is Xian? What information do we have about him? What's the origin of the dagger?

HarleyCroft · 01-11-21, 18:16

A new discussion about TR2! Yes please!

As for my opinion on who Xian is.. I have no idea. I hope somebody does.

Zsott · 01-11-21, 18:39

I always tought Xian was that admiral looking guy in the opening FMV, who turned himself into a dragon; but eventually died, when the dagger was pulled out of his chest/heart.
(tough, begs the question, how can you reverse the effect of the dagger?)

Amunet · 01-11-21, 18:51

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Originally Posted by Zsott

(tough, begs the question, how can you reverse the effect of the dagger?)

I have always wondered about this myself.

perryloo · 01-11-21, 19:42

HarleyCroft · 01-11-21, 19:49

So.. if the land was once called Chang'an we can sort of narrow down where and when the Dagger would have been discovered by the army that was defeated in the opening?

croftyboy · 01-11-21, 20:35

I can't add anything to this thread except pronuncation of "Xian" and "Shi Huang" are somewhat similar, so the change in the city's name might be actually connected to that ruler. Maybe the city was named after Shi Huang because he was burried there with terracotta army made for him, but in time the word Shi Huang turned into Xian?

DVDSpike · 01-11-21, 20:46

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Originally Posted by croftyboy

I can't add anything to this thread except pronuncation of "Xian" and "Shi Huang" are somewhat similar, so the change in the city's name might be actually connected to that ruler. Maybe the city was named after Shi Huang because he was burried there with terracotta army made for him, but in time the word Shi Huang turned into Xian?

The two aren't pronounced similarly at all.

croftyboy · 01-11-21, 21:33

Oh really

I've heard Xian before as "shi-an" and I thought Shi Huang is pronouned similar to "shi-wan" or something

Mek · 01-11-21, 21:42

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Originally Posted by Feder

I was checking the story concept of TRII and I realized there is no mention of this "Xian" person, which is odd because the dagger is his, and he even has a temple built in his name.

I always assumed it was the emperor's name, but it turns out his name was Qin Shihuang.

That could mean the dagger is an even older artifact, which story and origins is still unknown.

So, the final question remains, who is Xian? What information do we have about him? What's the origin of the dagger?

I think that Xian is not a person. It is used in the phrases "The Dagger of Xian" or "Temple of Xian", but this fact doesn't imply that it is a name of a man.

perryloo mentioned the city called Xian and I've always perceived the name Xian as the name of the city only. So "The Dagger of Xian" would mean that it is the dagger of that city, that is, a dagger that comes from that city or is related to that city. As regards "Temple of Xian", it would mean a temple of the Xian dagger, not a temple of a person named Xian.

01-11-21, 18:01	#1
Feder Historian Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Posts: 397	Who is Xian? I was checking the story concept of TRII and I realized there is no mention of this "Xian" person, which is odd because the dagger is his, and he even has a temple built in his name. I always assumed it was the emperor's name, but it turns out his name was Qin Shihuang. That could mean the dagger is an even older artifact, which story and origins is still unknown. So, the final question remains, who is Xian? What information do we have about him? What's the origin of the dagger?

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HarleyCroft Professor Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Coulrophilia Posts: 3,459	A new discussion about TR2! Yes please! As for my opinion on who Xian is.. I have no idea. I hope somebody does. __________________ Well if that ain't aren't the isn't

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Zsott Professor Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: France Posts: 2,535	I always tought Xian was that admiral looking guy in the opening FMV, who turned himself into a dragon; but eventually died, when the dagger was pulled out of his chest/heart. (tough, begs the question, how can you reverse the effect of the dagger?) __________________ there's a difference between " your " and " you're "

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HarleyCroft Professor Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Coulrophilia Posts: 3,459	So.. if the land was once called Chang'an we can sort of narrow down where and when the Dagger would have been discovered by the army that was defeated in the opening? __________________ Well if that ain't aren't the isn't

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croftyboy Historian Join Date: May 2011 Location: Gallifrey Posts: 445	I can't add anything to this thread except pronuncation of "Xian" and "Shi Huang" are somewhat similar, so the change in the city's name might be actually connected to that ruler. Maybe the city was named after Shi Huang because he was burried there with terracotta army made for him, but in time the word Shi Huang turned into Xian?

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croftyboy Historian Join Date: May 2011 Location: Gallifrey Posts: 445	Oh really I've heard Xian before as "shi-an" and I thought Shi Huang is pronouned similar to "shi-wan" or something