The whole becoming a dragon story concept

aoikirin · 08-08-22, 21:23

I'm playing through this game again and am wondering what the game plan is for people who plunge the dagger into their heart and become the dragon.

And then what? Live as a dragon? Conquer the world as a dragon?

It would seem there is a loss of self with the transformation and speech is impossible. How will you rule the world without that ability. You can't eat everyone. Lol

Uzi master · 09-08-22, 05:55

The guy who did it was the leader of a religious cult.

Historically, you can find lots of examples of people doing rather... illogical things in the name of their religious beliefs.

JoelCaesar · 09-08-22, 15:48

Probably go and take over the world while he was at it.

.snake. · 09-08-22, 22:10

Xian in Chinese Taoism means "spiritual immortal" or "transcendent human". It can also mean something close to a shaman or wizard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xian_(Taoism)

Which is why I personally would love it if people stopped spreading the misinformation that the Dagger/Temple of Xian is in the Chinese city of Xi'an - two completely different words.

So, going off of that, we can maybe read into the entire story that the Dragon Emperor's and Bartoli's desire to become a dragon and "transcend" is a lot more esoteric and nebulous than just becoming a fire-breathing monster.

Quebsenuef · 10-08-22, 19:49

To my understanding the Dagger of Xian transforms the user into an unkillable dragon and your army given immense power. The only way to defeat the dragon and the army is to take the dagger from the heart of the dragon.

Bartoli used the dagger so he and his cult followers would be given immense power and take over the world, yadda yadda typical bad guy stuff.

NunoRamone · 10-08-22, 21:53

Marco Bartoli was a huge fan of Dragon Ball and so he wanted to be just like Shenlong, hence the dragon transformation.
All jokes aside, it was probably for reasons of power and domination.

HarleyCroft · 14-11-22, 05:41

Do you think Winston would have also turned into a dragon-man like the opening FMV General?

perryloo · 17-11-22, 13:12

Think I would rather be a Dragon than be a Spider, as thats what happened to Doctor Willard. Who wants to be a creepy spider?

There are a lot of transformations in Tomb Raider series, just look what happened to Natla, she grew wings.....

Quebsenuef · 17-11-22, 14:51

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Originally Posted by perryloo

Think I would rather be a Dragon than be a Spider, as thats what happened to Doctor Willard. Who wants to be a creepy spider?

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There are a lot of transformations in Tomb Raider series, just look what happened to Natla, she grew wings.....

Actually Natla didn’t transform at all! It is actually a small mutant with wings that has latched onto her that gives her the ability to fly and the ability to shoot those explosive projectiles.

Sat42 · 17-11-22, 22:00

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Originally Posted by Quebsenuef

Actually Natla didn’t transform at all! It is actually a small mutant with wings that has latched onto her that gives her the ability to fly and the ability to shoot those explosive projectiles.

You're serious?

I could just about imagine I may have heard this once before but let me tell you, I sure as hell thought it was Natla undergoing Evolution™ back when I first played the game!

08-08-22, 21:23	#1
aoikirin Hobbyist Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 52	The whole becoming a dragon story concept I'm playing through this game again and am wondering what the game plan is for people who plunge the dagger into their heart and become the dragon. And then what? Live as a dragon? Conquer the world as a dragon? It would seem there is a loss of self with the transformation and speech is impossible. How will you rule the world without that ability. You can't eat everyone. Lol

09-08-22, 15:48	#3
JoelCaesar Professor Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: 8th DLC's Tomb Posts: 2,502	Probably go and take over the world while he was at it. __________________ Just think. You wouldn't be needing those unsightly weapons anymore. :)

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.snake. Inactive Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New York Posts: 3,382	Xian in Chinese Taoism means "spiritual immortal" or "transcendent human". It can also mean something close to a shaman or wizard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xian_(Taoism) Which is why I personally would love it if people stopped spreading the misinformation that the Dagger/Temple of Xian is in the Chinese city of Xi'an - two completely different words. So, going off of that, we can maybe read into the entire story that the Dragon Emperor's and Bartoli's desire to become a dragon and "transcend" is a lot more esoteric and nebulous than just becoming a fire-breathing monster. Last edited by .snake.; 10-08-22 at 04:32.

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Quebsenuef Tomb Raider Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: In Ryan Gosling’s Arms\|Gender: Pyramid Head\|Superpower: Dirty Tricks Mode\|Color: I'm Freakin' Gray Posts: 16,019	To my understanding the Dagger of Xian transforms the user into an unkillable dragon and your army given immense power. The only way to defeat the dragon and the army is to take the dagger from the heart of the dragon. Bartoli used the dagger so he and his cult followers would be given immense power and take over the world, yadda yadda typical bad guy stuff. __________________ Face and defeat your Guilt

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HarleyCroft Professor Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Coulrophilia Posts: 3,459	Do you think Winston would have also turned into a dragon-man like the opening FMV General? __________________ Well if that ain't aren't the isn't

09-08-22, 05:55	#2
Uzi master Relic Hunter Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 7,197	The guy who did it was the leader of a religious cult. Historically, you can find lots of examples of people doing rather... illogical things in the name of their religious beliefs.

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NunoRamone Student Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Portugal Posts: 120	Marco Bartoli was a huge fan of Dragon Ball and so he wanted to be just like Shenlong, hence the dragon transformation. All jokes aside, it was probably for reasons of power and domination.

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perryloo Explorer Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Sunny UK Posts: 656	Think I would rather be a Dragon than be a Spider, as thats what happened to Doctor Willard. Who wants to be a creepy spider? There are a lot of transformations in Tomb Raider series, just look what happened to Natla, she grew wings.....