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**iWANEX** · 15-01-20, 00:51

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Originally Posted by amiro1989

I mean, it's not as if Crystal had released anything convincing related to Avengers. Releasing it in May as initially planned, would have been a ****fest. General feedback has been very negative, to indifferent.

I think it's more to reposition the game, less about content. I would be quite surprised if the quality in itself would have been drastically changed, but then again, who knows.

The marketing campaign has been very lackluster and now we know why. Either the game wasn't ready, or there's too much competition or whatever. The thing is that both CD and SE are learning from past mistakes. They acknowledged them a few months ago and they're taking action now with Avengers and FF. So why does it look like some folks here are trying to spin this as a negative thing when it's exactly the kind of thing we've been criticizing since Shadow's release? And exactly what other studios are doing too? This should be met with the opposite reaction because, among other things, it could mean that TR won't be rushed again in a near future.

I mean you all can trash them for a million things but taking the time to try to make their game as good as possible (and market it appropriately) should not be one of them. Be fair, guys.

lance6439 · 15-01-20, 01:28

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nibdY5_TriY

11:45 - 12:35

He's got a point here I never really thought about. Lara not getting a braid or her 9mms or basically anything from CLara to end the trilogy with doesn't make sense. It was sorta implemented at first (the original deleted ending) but I really need to know who called for the removal of CLara traits and why

oh well

cephasjames · 15-01-20, 02:10

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Originally Posted by Athukraz

Avengers has been delayed to September. That clearly means TR12 is also delayed right?

And they delay this but couldn't delay sottr which obviously needed at least 6 more months lmao not surprised

Avengers is a significantly larger franchise than Tomb Raider. It makes much more sense to delay Avengers than it does TR.

amiro1989 · 15-01-20, 04:04

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Originally Posted by iWANEX

The marketing campaign has been very lackluster and now we know why. Either the game wasn't ready, or there's too much competition or whatever. The thing is that both CD and SE are learning from past mistakes. They acknowledged them a few months ago and they're taking action now with Avengers and FF. So why does it look like some folks here are trying to spin this as a negative thing when it's exactly the kind of thing we've been criticizing since Shadow's release? And exactly what other studios are doing too? This should be met with the opposite reaction because, among other things, it could mean that TR won't be rushed again in a near future.

I mean you all can trash them for a million things but taking the time to try to make their game as good as possible (and market it appropriately) should not be one of them. Be fair, guys.

There’s not necessarily a correlation. Perhaps, this year Square Enix can afford this delay on both Avengers and FF7 remake but won’t be able to afford it the year the next TR will come out. The wording of the note is pure marketing. Not that I’m looking for a bad guy, but yeah, this is just because they can afford it this time around.

**iWANEX** · 16-01-20, 17:44

Just wanted to say that Cyberpunk has also been delayed. It was announced today. So yeah, CD sucks so much. I can't believe how incompetent they are.

Chamayoo · 16-01-20, 17:48

2020, the year of delayed games.

Vaskito · 16-01-20, 17:50

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Originally Posted by iWANEX

Just wanted to say that Cyberpunk has also been delayed. It was announced today. So yeah, CD sucks so much. I can't believe how incompetent they are.

Now, the predictable reply:

"Same month as Avengers! It will DESTROY IT! "

Athukraz · 16-01-20, 17:58

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Originally Posted by Vaskito

Now, the predictable reply:

"Same month as Avengers! It will DESTROY IT! "

It will happen tho. It looked like a flop even without that competition and now it's worse.

jajay119 · 16-01-20, 20:37

Did anyone really think it wouldn't get delayed? The new consoles release next year. Of course they're going to be delayed.

Legends · 18-01-20, 01:24

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Originally Posted by Athukraz

It will happen tho. It looked like a flop even without that competition and now it's worse.

How is it even possible that it got even worse for them... but yeah, it did.

Crystal Dynamics' Avengers will be the flop it was destined to be once again.

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lance6439 Legend Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: UTOPIA ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° ) Posts: 32,984	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nibdY5_TriY 11:45 - 12:35 He's got a point here I never really thought about. Lara not getting a braid or her 9mms or basically anything from CLara to end the trilogy with doesn't make sense. It was sorta implemented at first (the original deleted ending) but I really need to know who called for the removal of CLara traits and why oh well __________________ You'll never get away; I'm HOT on your trail

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Chamayoo Relic Hunter Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 8,883	2020, the year of delayed games. __________________ Lost Artifact, Beneath the Ashes, Lara's Shadow and Ana Pure Hair for everyone

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jajay119 Tomb Raider Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 24,027	Did anyone really think it wouldn't get delayed? The new consoles release next year. Of course they're going to be delayed. __________________ ... in my opinion.

16-01-20, 17:44	#1705
iWANEX Golden Join Date: May 2007 Location: Spain Posts: 5,769	Just wanted to say that Cyberpunk has also been delayed. It was announced today. So yeah, CD sucks so much. I can't believe how incompetent they are.