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Quebsenuef · 12-01-21, 18:52

I can think of one user who had some transphobic comments in recent weeks.

As for homophobic comments, I haven’t seen any.
Fatphobic comments I can’t think of any I’ve seen either.

I haven’t been active in all corners of the forum tho so maybe it’s been in some low traffic areas?

Tombraider95 · 12-01-21, 18:57

I'm confused. Where does he say TRF in that video clip? How does this link to the forum? But if he IS talking about TRF, yes there's plenty of arguing just like any fans, but I've not seen any homophobic or fatphobic comments especially to the extreme he's suggesting?

ESCachuli · 12-01-21, 19:27

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Originally Posted by tlr online

This is Ed Perkins, Director of Mobile Publishing (Tomb Raider Reloaded) for Square Enix London, talking about why he left the forum during a Twitch stream. Can anyone give me some examples of the comments he's talking about?

https://dl.tombraiderchronicles.com/...1003193606.mp4

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There were plenty of transphobic coments by certain user (I think I'm remembering the name but I'm not sure so I won't be pointing fingers), so what he's saying might be true.

BTW how are you playing the game?

tlr online · 12-01-21, 19:40

I think I know who you are referring to and this person was immediately suspended. I called them out publicly on their conduct.

We did receive an email from Ed in November 2020 asking to deactivate his account and citing hostility on the forum as the reason. I looked into his claims and I did find some very harsh comments about the game so I can certainly understand why he wouldn't want to participate here. However there was no mention of us tolerating homophobic comments in his email and this very suggestion is unfathomable to me since we are predominantly LGBT.

If these comments do exist I really would appreciate assistance in finding them.

To answer your other question, I'm not playing the game.

Tombraider95 · 12-01-21, 19:58

Okay I saw the stream and it is indeed about TRF.

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Originally Posted by tlr online

We did receive an email from Ed in November 2020 asking to deactivate his account and citing hostility on the forum as the reason. I looked into his claims and I did find some very harsh comments about the game so I can certainly understand why he wouldn't want to participate here. However there was no mention of us tolerating homophobic comments in his email and this very suggestion is unfathomable to me since we are predominantly LGBT.

So perhaps he mainly left because of the response to Tomb Raider Reloaded and didn't want to say that on stream and gave those reasons instead. He left in November and it was revealed on the 23rd. But as you say, we're mainly LGBT, so TRF as a whole isn't homophobic/transphobic etc... at all. There might be an individual or two, but these are usually dealt with. But yes he's right with fans going at each other, but it's usually a handful and not the whole forum, but I do think it's gotten better more recently especially. hmm

Quebsenuef · 12-01-21, 20:19

I was gonna say if he left due to hostility I completely understand where he’s coming from.

We have a few bad apples on both sides that just wind each other up and make it almost insufferable to have a conversation.

**jackali** · 12-01-21, 23:14

As someone who has tried the game and didn't think a great deal of it, I'll be the first to hold up my hands and say that I have said some harsh things about it. Perhaps some of my comments were stronger than I had intended, and if something I have said had contributed to his desire to leave the community, I apologise. That doesn't change how I feel about the game, but if others feel my posts have been too harsh and have been offensive, please feel free to report them as violating the T&C, and another member of the team will be sure to moderate me.

UroshUchiha · 13-01-21, 00:11

I only visit the classics, LAU and the mobile sections of the forums and I have not seen any of said behaviour in those corners of the forum.
I stay away from the reboot section cause those can get very heated so it might have happened there idk.

Caesum · 13-01-21, 07:56

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Originally Posted by jackali

As someone who has tried the game and didn't think a great deal of it, I'll be the first to hold up my hands and say that I have said some harsh things about it.

Honestly same. Although my comments were mostly directed at Square and not the devs. I think most of the bad comments about the game were due to its rather unfortunate advertising. It was like the 14th/15th anniversary (?) and we've got that cute trailer showing 3D cartoon characters in TR1 environments and it really hyped people up for some remake or remaster, all that while TRAE story was fresh again thanks to Ash. And then we've got actual gameplay video and it turned out to be just an arcade shooter game for mobiles, which was quickly compared to Diablo Immortal drama. It was just a really bad timing.

tlr online · 13-01-21, 10:46

Ed has responded on Twitter and I appreciate his clarification. If you are on Twitter give him a follow, he seems like a good guy.

https://twitter.com/tombraider_ed/st...99577850126337

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12-01-21, 18:52	#681
Quebsenuef Tomb Raider Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: In Ryan Gosling’s Arms\|Gender: Pyramid Head\|Superpower: Dirty Tricks Mode\|Color: I'm Freakin' Gray Posts: 16,079	I can think of one user who had some transphobic comments in recent weeks. As for homophobic comments, I haven’t seen any. Fatphobic comments I can’t think of any I’ve seen either. I haven’t been active in all corners of the forum tho so maybe it’s been in some low traffic areas? __________________ Face and defeat your Guilt

12-01-21, 18:57	#682
Tombraider95 Tomb Raider Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 12,125	I'm confused. Where does he say TRF in that video clip? How does this link to the forum? But if he IS talking about TRF, yes there's plenty of arguing just like any fans, but I've not seen any homophobic or fatphobic comments especially to the extreme he's suggesting? __________________ What was it you said? Disrespect is the route to carelessness?

12-01-21, 20:19	#686
Quebsenuef Tomb Raider Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: In Ryan Gosling’s Arms\|Gender: Pyramid Head\|Superpower: Dirty Tricks Mode\|Color: I'm Freakin' Gray Posts: 16,079	I was gonna say if he left due to hostility I completely understand where he’s coming from. We have a few bad apples on both sides that just wind each other up and make it almost insufferable to have a conversation. __________________ Face and defeat your Guilt

12-01-21, 23:14	#687
jackali Golden Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Surrey, England Posts: 15,614	As someone who has tried the game and didn't think a great deal of it, I'll be the first to hold up my hands and say that I have said some harsh things about it. Perhaps some of my comments were stronger than I had intended, and if something I have said had contributed to his desire to leave the community, I apologise. That doesn't change how I feel about the game, but if others feel my posts have been too harsh and have been offensive, please feel free to report them as violating the T&C, and another member of the team will be sure to moderate me. __________________ Life tastes better with cake. 🎂

12-01-21, 19:40	#684
tlr online Administrator Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 60,531	I think I know who you are referring to and this person was immediately suspended. I called them out publicly on their conduct. We did receive an email from Ed in November 2020 asking to deactivate his account and citing hostility on the forum as the reason. I looked into his claims and I did find some very harsh comments about the game so I can certainly understand why he wouldn't want to participate here. However there was no mention of us tolerating homophobic comments in his email and this very suggestion is unfathomable to me since we are predominantly LGBT. If these comments do exist I really would appreciate assistance in finding them. To answer your other question, I'm not playing the game.

13-01-21, 00:11	#688
UroshUchiha Explorer Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Serbia Posts: 779	I only visit the classics, LAU and the mobile sections of the forums and I have not seen any of said behaviour in those corners of the forum. I stay away from the reboot section cause those can get very heated so it might have happened there idk.

13-01-21, 10:46	#690
tlr online Administrator Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 60,531	Ed has responded on Twitter and I appreciate his clarification. If you are on Twitter give him a follow, he seems like a good guy. https://twitter.com/tombraider_ed/st...99577850126337 As a reminder, everyone is welcome on this forum so please help us keep Tomb Raider Forums a friendly and inclusive venue by reporting any offensive and/or rule breaking comments.