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Old 30-06-18, 21:45   #12581
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I have noticed previously that a lot of people prefer the reboot over Rise, which I have always found strange as the reboot was quite lacking in the elements that make up a Tomb Raider game whereas Rise clearly tried to address these areas.
From another angle, 2013 is definitely one of the worst Tomb Raider releases to date.

But if we take it under our wing as an experiment, without being associated with the whole saga… It becomes extremely appreciable.
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Old 30-06-18, 22:30   #12582
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I have noticed previously that a lot of people prefer the reboot over Rise, which I have always found strange as the reboot was quite lacking in the elements that make up a Tomb Raider game whereas Rise clearly tried to address these areas.
That's exactly why I like TR9 more (or rather, hate less) than TR10: TR9 is rather good as a survival horror game whereas TR10 tries and fails to be a TR game.
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Old 30-06-18, 22:33   #12583
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That's exactly why I like TR9 more (or rather, hate less) than TR10: TR9 is rather good as a survival horror game whereas TR10 tries and fails to be a TR game.
I don't really see how TR9 is survival horror? the only horror elements was the (IMO) Over the top gore. you didn't have to conserve ammo or health and every enemy was easy to kill with no loss to resources, I don't really see how it has any of the elements of a Survival Horror game?, it felt like an action game with some forced horror elements to me.
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Old 30-06-18, 22:35   #12584
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I feel like it's an ongoing theme in this fandom. Usually CD's attempt at creating their game on their own terms is much appreciated than their attempt at pleasing the fans. It happened in LAU, in which Legend is more appreciated than Anniversary and Underworld, and now with TR2013 and Rise. I get the feeling Shadow might be able to change everything, though.
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Old 30-06-18, 22:43   #12585
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I don't really see how TR9 is survival horror? the only horror elements was the (IMO) Over the top gore. you didn't have to conserve ammo or health and every enemy was easy to kill with no loss to resources, I don't really see how it has any of the elements of a Survival Horror game?, it felt like an action game with some forced horror elements to me.
Well the piles of corpses, the undead idiots, the swimming pools of blood and the whole 'The Descent' imagery is very horrorish to me.
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Old 30-06-18, 22:44   #12586
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Well the piles of corpses, the undead idiots, the swimming pools of blood and the whole 'The Descent' imagery is very horrorish to me.
Yeah but its horror elements, so I was confused when you called it Survival Horror.
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Old 30-06-18, 22:50   #12587
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I feel like it's an ongoing theme in this fandom. Usually CD's attempt at creating their game on their own terms is much appreciated than their attempt at pleasing the fans. It happened in LAU, in which Legend is more appreciated than Anniversary and Underworld, and now with TR2013 and Rise. I get the feeling Shadow might be able to change everything, though.
Yeah Legend was pretty good, it is (IMO) tied with Underworld for best combat in the series, and the bronze rewards giving you pistol upgrades was neat and I loved collecting the gold ones and getting new outfits.
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Old 30-06-18, 22:57   #12588
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That's exactly why I like TR9 more (or rather, hate less) than TR10: TR9 is rather good as a survival horror game whereas TR10 tries and fails to be a TR game.
I think it fails miserably as a survival horror game, I mean ammo and resources were abundant and the only area that truly succeeded in being remotely horror-esque was the games introduction.
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Old 30-06-18, 23:15   #12589
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I think it fails miserably as a survival horror game, I mean ammo and resources were abundant and the only area that truly succeeded in being remotely horror-esque was the games introduction.
This. TR13 failed hard on being a survival horror game.
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Old 01-07-18, 00:16   #12590
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I feel like it's an ongoing theme in this fandom. Usually CD's attempt at creating their game on their own terms is much appreciated than their attempt at pleasing the fans. It happened in LAU, in which Legend is more appreciated than Anniversary and Underworld, and now with TR2013 and Rise. I get the feeling Shadow might be able to change everything, though.
You're not wrong. In retrospect it seems in the long term more original work becomes appreciated over time than that which is only placed in the game to please everyone. I truly hope that Shadow takes many creative liberties. Fingers crossed.

I remember many people claiming they didnt like Legend back in the day and many of the complaints were the same as they are now. And now seems that Legend is regarded as one of the series' high moments. Interesting how time changes things.

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