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Richard_trle · 01-08-22, 18:40

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Originally Posted by justin

Ah that may be the case, i've been meaning to test it on other objects (like switches being moved between rooms)

Regarding the trapdoor, it's placed in the lower room? It shouldn't flicker as long as it's placed in the room where it opens into.

When I place it in the lower room Lara is unable to stand on it

TimJ · 01-08-22, 19:19

Maybe try to put a dummy trigger?

LoreRaider · 02-08-22, 09:20

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Originally Posted by Richard_trle

When I place it in the lower room Lara is unable to stand on it

For sure you have some rooms height problems, whenever a trapdoor has no collision (or even randomly crashes the game) it means that one of the two rooms has either the floor too deep or the ceiling too tall compared to the portal

To make sure, just untick "Draw all rooms" to see the single room and check that out, otherwise you can see if floor/ceiling height values match between the two rooms (you can see them at the bottom of TE)

YumaS2Astral · 03-08-22, 18:56

Is there a way to force Lara to switch ammo in a certain weapon?

I am asking that because, a couple of days ago, I have asked if it was possible to add a new weapon when you have already filled all your weapon slots.

After a couple of days, and after analyzing what NateH96 has done on its TR1 and TR2 conversion projects, I think I have finally discovered a method that allows me to force Lara to equip a weapon, while "disguising" that weapon as another weapon, thus effectively allowing me to create more weapon slots:

Using the trigger $2000,53,$000A, I force Lara to draw the weapon she has currently selected. Using the trigger $2000,246,$0607 and $2000,246,$0606, I force Lara to have the currently selected weapon be the crossbow.

There is also the trigger $2000,340,$4C04, which is a bit more complicated to explain. It swaps CROSSBOW_ANIM's meshes with ANIMATING16_MIP's meshes. ANIMATING16_MIP in my game is actually the GRENADE_GUN_ANIM imported to that slot. This means I am effectivelly switching the crossbow animation's meshes with those of the grenade gun.

There are also a script line that makes Lara unable to switch ammo when selecting the crossbow in the rotating menu: Customize= CUST_CINV_ITEM_ACTION, CINV_ITEM_CROSSBOW, CINV_FACTION_CONFIRM, CINV_ACTION_EQUIP, IGNORE, IGNORE, IGNORE, IGNORE, IGNORE, IGNORE, CINV_ACTION_CHOOSE_AMMO, IGNORE, IGNORE, IGNORE, CINV_FACTION_DISABLE, IGNORE, IGNORE

The result in-game is that I have Lara visually holding the grenade gun, but it is actually the crossbow, and it shoots bows (Crossbow's projectiles). This disguised crossbow is shooting the ammo 2 from crossbow (Poison Ammo) as opposed to the ammo 1 (Regular Ammo). Lara cannot switch either ammo, and they will have different properties (e.g. damage done, for example)

There is an issue, however.

I also want to use the actual crossbow in-game, with its ammo 1 loaded. The issue is, I don't know how to force Lara to load the ammo 1 from crossbow when selecting the actual crossbow, or load the ammo 2 when selecting the grenade gun.

This means that if I already, for example, selected the ammo 1 from crossbow, and then I attempt to select the grenade gun, I will have Lara visually holding a grenade gun, but shooting ammo 1 (which is meant to be the crossbow ammo).

I don't want this. I want to force Lara to switch ammo when selecting either weapons. In short, I want to force Lara to switch ammo whenever she selects what is essentially the same weapon, but activated with different commands.

I know this is possible because NateH96 did this on its projects, but analyzing the code, I don't seem to find what trigger he used to force switching ammo.

Is there a way to do this?

justin · 03-08-22, 20:37

Aky's first plugin has a flipeffect to Load a specific ammo into the crossbow (508), hopefully that is what you are looking for

YumaS2Astral · 05-08-22, 03:19

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Originally Posted by justin

Aky's first plugin has a flipeffect to Load a specific ammo into the crossbow (508), hopefully that is what you are looking for

I've look into the plugin, and indeed, it exists, thanks for the recommendation!

There is an issue, however. Even after installing the plugin, for some reason, I can't see this flipeffect option in the list of flipeffects.

This may have to do with the fact I am using Tomb Editor... Maybe I need to try to ask in the Tomb Editor forum, what is the issue?

justin · 05-08-22, 12:29

Ah, yes, you will need to export the command into a triggergroup. I usually copy the command from NGLE to paste into my script (it's a pain, but it works).

TE doesn't support plugins from the trigger window, but TombIDE still supports it and since it compiles with NG_Center, the triggergroups will still work.

Just be sure that the plugin# is the same in TE and NGLE. I think it's the first # in the triggergroup command, like 01 or 02.

AkyV · 05-08-22, 17:10

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Originally Posted by YumaS2Astral

I've look into the plugin, and indeed, it exists, thanks for the recommendation!

There is an issue, however. Even after installing the plugin, for some reason, I can't see this flipeffect option in the list of flipeffects.

This may have to do with the fact I am using Tomb Editor... Maybe I need to try to ask in the Tomb Editor forum, what is the issue?

For a longer explanation, see:
https://www.tombraiderforums.com/sho...d.php?t=226284

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TimJ Student Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 218	Maybe try to put a dummy trigger? __________________ ·Å·

03-08-22, 20:37	#15395
justin Professor Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: CT, USA Posts: 4,627	Aky's first plugin has a flipeffect to Load a specific ammo into the crossbow (508), hopefully that is what you are looking for __________________ Nothing is impossible, just impractical

05-08-22, 12:29	#15397
justin Professor Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: CT, USA Posts: 4,627	Ah, yes, you will need to export the command into a triggergroup. I usually copy the command from NGLE to paste into my script (it's a pain, but it works). TE doesn't support plugins from the trigger window, but TombIDE still supports it and since it compiles with NG_Center, the triggergroups will still work. Just be sure that the plugin# is the same in TE and NGLE. I think it's the first # in the triggergroup command, like 01 or 02. __________________ Nothing is impossible, just impractical

03-08-22, 18:56	#15394
YumaS2Astral Student Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Brazil Posts: 109	Is there a way to force Lara to switch ammo in a certain weapon? I am asking that because, a couple of days ago, I have asked if it was possible to add a new weapon when you have already filled all your weapon slots. After a couple of days, and after analyzing what NateH96 has done on its TR1 and TR2 conversion projects, I think I have finally discovered a method that allows me to force Lara to equip a weapon, while "disguising" that weapon as another weapon, thus effectively allowing me to create more weapon slots: Using the trigger $2000,53,$000A, I force Lara to draw the weapon she has currently selected. Using the trigger $2000,246,$0607 and $2000,246,$0606, I force Lara to have the currently selected weapon be the crossbow. There is also the trigger $2000,340,$4C04, which is a bit more complicated to explain. It swaps CROSSBOW_ANIM's meshes with ANIMATING16_MIP's meshes. ANIMATING16_MIP in my game is actually the GRENADE_GUN_ANIM imported to that slot. This means I am effectivelly switching the crossbow animation's meshes with those of the grenade gun. There are also a script line that makes Lara unable to switch ammo when selecting the crossbow in the rotating menu: Customize= CUST_CINV_ITEM_ACTION, CINV_ITEM_CROSSBOW, CINV_FACTION_CONFIRM, CINV_ACTION_EQUIP, IGNORE, IGNORE, IGNORE, IGNORE, IGNORE, IGNORE, CINV_ACTION_CHOOSE_AMMO, IGNORE, IGNORE, IGNORE, CINV_FACTION_DISABLE, IGNORE, IGNORE The result in-game is that I have Lara visually holding the grenade gun, but it is actually the crossbow, and it shoots bows (Crossbow's projectiles). This disguised crossbow is shooting the ammo 2 from crossbow (Poison Ammo) as opposed to the ammo 1 (Regular Ammo). Lara cannot switch either ammo, and they will have different properties (e.g. damage done, for example) There is an issue, however. I also want to use the actual crossbow in-game, with its ammo 1 loaded. The issue is, I don't know how to force Lara to load the ammo 1 from crossbow when selecting the actual crossbow, or load the ammo 2 when selecting the grenade gun. This means that if I already, for example, selected the ammo 1 from crossbow, and then I attempt to select the grenade gun, I will have Lara visually holding a grenade gun, but shooting ammo 1 (which is meant to be the crossbow ammo). I don't want this. I want to force Lara to switch ammo when selecting either weapons. In short, I want to force Lara to switch ammo whenever she selects what is essentially the same weapon, but activated with different commands. I know this is possible because NateH96 did this on its projects, but analyzing the code, I don't seem to find what trigger he used to force switching ammo. Is there a way to do this?