FLEP custom patches: updates, testing and discussion (Round 2) - Page 19

**Titak** · 04-06-23, 22:08

Yep, patches.dll is in there as well.

Looks like I finally found the culprit: Fix sector boundaries.

I could have sworn I had already taken the patches.bin and plugin_FLEP files from a backup folder, but either I hadn't or something went wrong with those as well.
Whatever, I tried those and the game played fine.
I then added some of the new FLEP patches and the game crashed again.
So one of the patches must have done it, right?
So I removed/added patches and now whenever I tick "Fix sector boundaries" the crash happens.
No idea what that patch is about exactly and I just wanted to see if it made a difference in the game, but I'm not going to use it now.

(Still using NGLE + TRNG btw, if that makes a difference)

*** EDIT ***
And now I'm back where I started: "Fix Lara's backstep down animation" makes the game crash when Lara is about to perform the backstep down with her right foot.
Crashreport says this:

Code:

............... QUICK DIAGNOSTIC LOG ...............
At moment of crash the program was managing:
	(Collision Structure of Lara)
	(Item Structure of ngle Index=0 (slot=0  room=170))
	(Collision Structure of Lara)

Lara has index 0 and the room I tested this in is 170.

*** EDIT 2***
Whenever I use the patches.dll from my backup folder, the game runs fine.
"Back step fix" crashes the game when doing the backstep, and wibbly rooms and wibbly objects crash the game on startup.
According to previous suggestions, I updated the patches.dll with the one included in the latest download. Result: game crashes, also when not having one of these patches enabled.

Got my game running the way it is now with older patches.dll, so going to leave it like this.
But I figured I'd mention it anyway.

ChocolateFan · 04-06-23, 22:29

Is this line in the log?

Code:

CRASH OFFSET: 0x914000  (Outside of all tomb4, trng or plugin engines. Probably windows APIs)

**Titak** · 04-06-23, 22:46

^
Yes, it is.

Quote:

CRASH OFFSET: 0x914000 (Outside of all tomb4, trng or plugin engines. Probably windows APIs)

I've also been getting

Quote:

CRASH OFFSET: 0x648FD023 (Outside of all tomb4, trng or plugin engines. Probably windows APIs)

Same except for the numbers.

ChocolateFan · 04-06-23, 22:53

I will make a debug version of the plugin, so we will know why it is refusing to work.

**Titak** · 04-06-23, 22:56

^
If you need any files from my end, just let me know.

For now I'm really happy my game runs again.

Craig Michaels · 06-06-23, 07:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verner Fon Cro

It's the most beautiful eye candy ever introduced

Haha... is it?

Still not sure what "Wibble" is...

Die Basis · 06-06-23, 10:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Michaels

Haha... is it?

Still not sure what "Wibble" is...

It kind of simulates underwater waves with wibbling walls. If you also tick "Wibble Objects" also objects will be affected and "wibble".

**Titak** · 07-06-23, 19:15

Btw, some patches make more than one appearance in FLEP.
Like "Crawlspace Pickup" for example.
It there a difference between those two?

ChocolateFan · 08-06-23, 01:07

Sometimes if a patch has a bug or lacks a feature, then instead of replacing the old patch a new one is added. The replacement of a patch can make the preset update inconsistent for the people that are using it.
About the crawlspace pickup patches, any can be used, but the new one also allows the customization of pickup frame.

**Titak** · 09-06-23, 19:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChocolateFan

Sometimes if a patch has a bug or lacks a feature, then instead of replacing the old patch a new one is added. The replacement of a patch can make the preset update inconsistent for the people that are using it.
About the crawlspace pickup patches, any can be used, but the new one also allows the customization of pickup frame.

I see.
I tend to use the version that is further down the list, so the newer versions.

04-06-23, 22:08	#181
Titak Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Drenthe, The Netherlands Posts: 33,303	Yep, patches.dll is in there as well. Looks like I finally found the culprit: Fix sector boundaries. I could have sworn I had already taken the patches.bin and plugin_FLEP files from a backup folder, but either I hadn't or something went wrong with those as well. Whatever, I tried those and the game played fine. I then added some of the new FLEP patches and the game crashed again. So one of the patches must have done it, right? So I removed/added patches and now whenever I tick "Fix sector boundaries" the crash happens. No idea what that patch is about exactly and I just wanted to see if it made a difference in the game, but I'm not going to use it now. (Still using NGLE + TRNG btw, if that makes a difference) * EDIT * And now I'm back where I started: "Fix Lara's backstep down animation" makes the game crash when Lara is about to perform the backstep down with her right foot. Crashreport says this: Code: ............... QUICK DIAGNOSTIC LOG ............... At moment of crash the program was managing: (Collision Structure of Lara) (Item Structure of ngle Index=0 (slot=0 room=170)) (Collision Structure of Lara) Lara has index 0 and the room I tested this in is 170. * EDIT 2* Whenever I use the patches.dll from my backup folder, the game runs fine. "Back step fix" crashes the game when doing the backstep, and wibbly rooms and wibbly objects crash the game on startup. According to previous suggestions, I updated the patches.dll with the one included in the latest download. Result: game crashes, also when not having one of these patches enabled. Got my game running the way it is now with older patches.dll, so going to leave it like this. But I figured I'd mention it anyway. __________________ If it walks like a duck and if it quacks like a duck, it is a duck. Last edited by Titak; 04-06-23 at 22:45.

04-06-23, 22:29	#182
ChocolateFan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: I am female Posts: 524	Is this line in the log? Code: CRASH OFFSET: 0x914000 (Outside of all tomb4, trng or plugin engines. Probably windows APIs)

04-06-23, 22:56	#185
Titak Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Drenthe, The Netherlands Posts: 33,303	^ If you need any files from my end, just let me know. For now I'm really happy my game runs again. __________________ If it walks like a duck and if it quacks like a duck, it is a duck.

07-06-23, 19:15	#188
Titak Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Drenthe, The Netherlands Posts: 33,303	Btw, some patches make more than one appearance in FLEP. Like "Crawlspace Pickup" for example. It there a difference between those two? __________________ If it walks like a duck and if it quacks like a duck, it is a duck.

04-06-23, 22:53	#184
ChocolateFan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: I am female Posts: 524	I will make a debug version of the plugin, so we will know why it is refusing to work.

08-06-23, 01:07	#189
ChocolateFan Explorer Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: I am female Posts: 524	Sometimes if a patch has a bug or lacks a feature, then instead of replacing the old patch a new one is added. The replacement of a patch can make the preset update inconsistent for the people that are using it. About the crawlspace pickup patches, any can be used, but the new one also allows the customization of pickup frame.