TRNG - Bugs & Limitations Thread

Laras Boyfr. · 14-03-10, 18:38

I thought it would be good that everyone can post here bugs which he/she had with the last TRNG update,or even suggestions(realistic ones,please not wishes :P).At the end I can send Paolone an email with the whole report of us.
How do u think?

**Titak** · 14-03-10, 19:17

Raymond is already doing that via Skribblerz. He collects bugs or isseus he finds here, posts them on skribblerz for confirmation and extra testing if needed and then he sends reports of to Paolone.

And we don't want to throw different bug reports at Paolone from different sides. He's busy enough already.

Raymond · 14-03-10, 19:45

Yes, that´s already my job, but a seperate bug thread here is ok.

Piega · 14-03-10, 20:16

Then I would like to add my first. I'm converting my game to TRNG.

I have read that enemies should not be placed after the old 255 object limit because of saving and loading. Sinds all my levels are practically ready this is fine.

To spice things up in the graphics department I replaced my static banisters with animating ones wich lead up to 364 animating objects. Now my horizontal bursts flame emitters dont work anymore. They only show the light effect. So Lara wont burn.

Known bug maybe? I reduced number of rooms to see if it was a limit problem and I have 24 texture pages in the wad but it stays the same.

EDIT: Mmmm, seems to be textures plus number of rooms. I deleted objects to reach below 230 and they still are not there so back to the drawing table.

Raymond · 14-03-10, 21:01

I would still say, that you hit somehow a limit. Would be interesting, if the NG_Doctor (available with Update 1.2.2.1) can give some valuable info.
Have you experimanted with reducing especially animating count again and/or reducing flame emitters!?

Uzi master · 14-03-10, 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piega

Then I would like to add my first. I'm converting my game to TRNG.

I have read that enemies should not be placed after the old 255 object limit because of saving and loading. Sinds all my levels are practically ready this is fine.

To spice things up in the graphics department I replaced my static banisters with animating ones wich lead up to 364 animating objects. Now my horizontal bursts flame emitters dont work anymore. They only show the light effect. So Lara wont burn.

Known bug maybe? I reduced number of rooms to see if it was a limit problem and I have 24 texture pages in the wad but it stays the same.

EDIT: Mmmm, seems to be textures plus number of rooms. I deleted objects to reach below 230 and they still are not there so back to the drawing table.

My solution: use regular static ones, whats better a higher polly banister, working levels?

but you could find a solution.

Not sure if its really a bug but even a few low-poly objects seem to really lower turning speed and other reactions in the editor, I know theres a hide objects button but that doesnt help if you want to set up more objects or avoid messing with set up objects. I know its not my computer because Before with my REALLY old one it slowed down the same ammount.

Piega · 14-03-10, 21:32

I think it is room numbers. I have 176 rooms. Not real big rooms but stacked to get textures with doors. Now that we can select bigger textures I can delete all those stacked rooms. Will probably reduce my room count to 115 or so.

I tested the flame in my second level wich has many big rooms and also has 115 room count. Even 48 texture pages and there the flame works so I really think it is room count. Thanks for the help.

igor32 · 14-03-10, 21:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piega

Now my horizontal bursts flame emitters dont work anymore. They only show the light effect. So Lara wont burn.

If you have the 2.1 version /latest/ you should rotate then, so the square part of the flame in the direction you want to make Lara burn

I had this, I tought it was a bug

Raymond · 14-03-10, 22:33

Ah, yes, sorry, forgot about this. The burners just emit in the opposite direction as they should. So no problem for you. I think, it should be fixed in the next update.

**Titak** · 15-03-10, 11:01

^
Ah! I thought it was just me, having forgotten how to work with flame-emitters.
But it actually is the other way around now.

We'll keep this thread then Raymond.
But I still think it is best that you will still be the only one collecting the info and sending it to Paolone.

I've stickied the thread for now, to see how it goes.

14-03-10, 18:38	#1
Laras Boyfr. Professor Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Albania Posts: 4,742	TRNG - Bugs & Limitations Thread I thought it would be good that everyone can post here bugs which he/she had with the last TRNG update,or even suggestions(realistic ones,please not wishes :P).At the end I can send Paolone an email with the whole report of us. How do u think?

14-03-10, 19:17	#2
Titak Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Drenthe, The Netherlands Posts: 33,303	Raymond is already doing that via Skribblerz. He collects bugs or isseus he finds here, posts them on skribblerz for confirmation and extra testing if needed and then he sends reports of to Paolone. And we don't want to throw different bug reports at Paolone from different sides. He's busy enough already. __________________ If it walks like a duck and if it quacks like a duck, it is a duck.

14-03-10, 20:16	#4
Piega Archaeologist Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,378	Then I would like to add my first. I'm converting my game to TRNG. I have read that enemies should not be placed after the old 255 object limit because of saving and loading. Sinds all my levels are practically ready this is fine. To spice things up in the graphics department I replaced my static banisters with animating ones wich lead up to 364 animating objects. Now my horizontal bursts flame emitters dont work anymore. They only show the light effect. So Lara wont burn. Known bug maybe? I reduced number of rooms to see if it was a limit problem and I have 24 texture pages in the wad but it stays the same. EDIT: Mmmm, seems to be textures plus number of rooms. I deleted objects to reach below 230 and they still are not there so back to the drawing table. Last edited by Piega; 14-03-10 at 20:58.

15-03-10, 11:01	#10
Titak Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Drenthe, The Netherlands Posts: 33,303	^ Ah! I thought it was just me, having forgotten how to work with flame-emitters. But it actually is the other way around now. We'll keep this thread then Raymond. But I still think it is best that you will still be the only one collecting the info and sending it to Paolone. I've stickied the thread for now, to see how it goes. __________________ If it walks like a duck and if it quacks like a duck, it is a duck.

14-03-10, 19:45	#3
Raymond Archaeologist Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,689	Yes, that´s already my job, but a seperate bug thread here is ok.

14-03-10, 21:01	#5
Raymond Archaeologist Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,689	I would still say, that you hit somehow a limit. Would be interesting, if the NG_Doctor (available with Update 1.2.2.1) can give some valuable info. Have you experimanted with reducing especially animating count again and/or reducing flame emitters!?

14-03-10, 21:32	#7
Piega Archaeologist Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Netherlands Posts: 2,378	I think it is room numbers. I have 176 rooms. Not real big rooms but stacked to get textures with doors. Now that we can select bigger textures I can delete all those stacked rooms. Will probably reduce my room count to 115 or so. I tested the flame in my second level wich has many big rooms and also has 115 room count. Even 48 texture pages and there the flame works so I really think it is room count. Thanks for the help.

14-03-10, 22:33	#9
Raymond Archaeologist Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,689	Ah, yes, sorry, forgot about this. The burners just emit in the opposite direction as they should. So no problem for you. I think, it should be fixed in the next update.