TRNG - Bugs & Limitations Thread - Page 38

Caesum · 10-01-15, 21:05

I'm not sure if this can be considered a limitation, but it's surely something that has been bugging me and our community for a long time.

For some reason statics with movable lighting seem to react different than movables with movable lighting. What I mean is statics with movable lighting react only to ambience light, while movables with movable lighting react to all kinds of light present in the level.

Would it be possible to make static objects react to lighting the same way movable objects do? Like Lara object, enemies etc. This way we would have more complex lighting without the need to use meta2tr, that would be especially good for level builders who prefer not to use meta2tr or who are beginners in TRNG world.

Also I would like to remind the issue with diary/save/load menus not showing when anti-aliasing is enabled in 1.2.2.7. When I released my level-set lots of questions were asked about this issue, so it seems it's quite popular. It happens only in 1.2.2.7 version of TRNG.

**Titak** · 11-01-15, 10:11

I like your suggestion, but I don't want it for all statics. We should still have the possibility to have statics with inner lighting.
As Teme9 already stated, things like lightrays depend on it.

So statics should only react to lighting as moveables do when they were imported as "moveable" in STRPix.

Caesum · 11-01-15, 10:29

I don't remember saying anywhere that we should delete static lighting, Titak.

I was talking about making movable lighting work exactly like for Lara/enemies.

Especially that dynamic lighting seem to be less fps demanding than static lighting. This would be an instant win-win for everyone who wanted to achieve graphics greatness while keeping nice fps.

EDIT: That reminds me. It would be fabulous if SOUND effect from room editor could use v130 slot sounds.

igor32 · 25-01-15, 15:26

I just got and wierd glitch while playing this level

http://www.trle.net/sc/levelfeatures.php?lid=2776

I cant acess the menu, pause, or even save game, it just crash

I've even tried replacing with the newest update, but kept happening

Code:

Version=1.2.2.7+
Date: 19 January 2015  (20:2:14)  Size=1765376 bytes
CRS=Disabled
Last diagnostic mexage:DXCreateSurface
Last directX error: 

MEMORY CODE MAPPING:
BASE    START   END      #ID PLUGIN
-----------------------------------------------------
10000000 10001000 10129000    0 Tomb_NextGeneration.dll
-----------------------------------------------------
REMAPPED MEMORY ZONES:
OLD_ADDR  NEW_ADDR  END_NEW_ADDR
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0080DE80  020701C0  02070240
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004BFD70  036B6020  0385F2A0
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004ACAC0  022068E8  02206C80
00660678  025586D8  02559358
005C0350  0255B6C8  0255C348
--------------------------------
............... QUICK DIAGNOSTIC LOG ...............
WARNING: level "pierrelevel.TR4" has a version (1.2.2.6) different than current dll
WARNING: level "laralevel.TR4" has a version (1.2.2.6) different than current dll
At moment of crash the program was managing:
....................................................
CRASH REASON: EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION
	The thread tried to read from or write to a virtual address for which it does not have the appropriate access.
EXTRA_INFO: VIOLATION ON READ AT OFFSET 0x641830A
RECOVERABLE : YES
CRASH OFFSET: 0x477CE2
REGISTERS:
	EAX=6333BEA  
	EBX=F800  
	ECX=B  
	EDX=72390  
	ESI=80  
	EDI=9AD6E4C  
	EBP=72390  
	EIP=477CE2
	ESP=746FD7C
DYNAMIC POINTER LIST:
------------------------------------------
00000000:Camera_Room
00000000:Camera_TargetRoom
0018FF18:BaseSalvaStack1
06DAFF8C:BaseSalvaStack2
0732FF88:BaseSalvaStack3
0018FB08:Trng_Stack
------------------------------------------
Lara:  x=42020  y=0  z=13824  StateId=2  NextId=2  AnimNow=103  Room=0

MEMORY ALLOCATION ARRAY
---------------------
Memory            ID    ToFree
---------------------------
  1) 0x025548C0  6236  0
  2) 0x02070340  6236  0
  3) 0x02072D60  6236  1
  4) 0x020713C0  6236  0
  5) 0x021F4290  6236  0
  6) 0x02070010  6236  0
  7) 0x02071120  6236  0
  8) 0x021F5308  1496  1
  9) 0x02212940  1496  1
 10) 0x0255C550  4424  0
 11) 0x0221C258  4424  0
 12) 0x00000000  0  0
 13) 0x00000000  0  0
 14) 0x00000000  0  0
-----------------------------

Stack=0x746FD7C  pContesto=0x746F918  pInfoEccezione=0x746F8C8
PRIMARY_STACK:
ESP=0x746FD7C
STACK_TRACE:
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END_STACK_TRACE

SECONDARY_STACK:
ESP=0x18B0F8
STACK_TRACE:
	0x48D323
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END_STACK_TRACE

OTHER_STACK:
ESP=0x6DAB16C
STACK_TRACE:
<CRASH DURING STACK TRACE>
END_STACK_TRACE

**Titak** · 25-01-15, 16:02

This thread is for reporting confirmed bugs, not for discussing issues you might have with one particular level.
Please make a seperate thread or use the general TRNG thread.

A_De · 17-02-15, 22:11

After testing animations I found a bug: with FAN_RANDOM flag in Animation= command we can have maximum first 3 random animations. The others are being ignored.

tomb2player · 18-03-15, 23:36

This thread as name says, is for reporting limitations as well. So I think that following thread and it's problem would fit here:

http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=207917

I am posting it here, so maybe Paolone or someone else who know these kind of things will notice it and maybe in next versions of TRNG will be solved, if possible

EDIT: I thought that I will post also thread about bugged Harpoon Gun:

http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=209480

teme9 · 15-05-15, 16:15

Can anyone confirm that "Cutscene" flipeffects stop working after updating the NGScripter/center to a 1.04.0192? (im using 1.2.2.7+ version of TRNG .dll)

Before updating to the latest update the cutscene flipeffects worked without problems.

*edit

I have no idea what has changed but now the cutscenes seem to be working again? I removed one assignslot= from my script and they started working. Something odd is going on!

TombRaiderTim · 01-07-15, 10:02

Not really sure if anyone else has this but it seems the whole of the screen on the ngle in game appears as if it's zoomed in slightly, not displaying it completely.

Although I have noticed it displays it all normally on windowed mode, so I am not too sure whats going on.

Joey79100 · 01-07-15, 10:30

Ulike TREP, TRNG's widescreen cuts the highest and lowest parts of the screen instead of adding more scenery to the sides. That's why it looks zoomed unfortunately.

10-01-15, 21:05	#371
Caesum Tomb Raider Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Poland, Warsaw Gender: Male Posts: 12,058	I'm not sure if this can be considered a limitation, but it's surely something that has been bugging me and our community for a long time. For some reason statics with movable lighting seem to react different than movables with movable lighting. What I mean is statics with movable lighting react only to ambience light, while movables with movable lighting react to all kinds of light present in the level. Would it be possible to make static objects react to lighting the same way movable objects do? Like Lara object, enemies etc. This way we would have more complex lighting without the need to use meta2tr, that would be especially good for level builders who prefer not to use meta2tr or who are beginners in TRNG world. Also I would like to remind the issue with diary/save/load menus not showing when anti-aliasing is enabled in 1.2.2.7. When I released my level-set lots of questions were asked about this issue, so it seems it's quite popular. It happens only in 1.2.2.7 version of TRNG. Last edited by Caesum; 10-01-15 at 21:07.

11-01-15, 10:11	#372
Titak Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Drenthe, The Netherlands Posts: 33,302	I like your suggestion, but I don't want it for all statics. We should still have the possibility to have statics with inner lighting. As Teme9 already stated, things like lightrays depend on it. So statics should only react to lighting as moveables do when they were imported as "moveable" in STRPix. __________________ If it walks like a duck and if it quacks like a duck, it is a duck.

11-01-15, 10:29	#373
Caesum Tomb Raider Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Poland, Warsaw Gender: Male Posts: 12,058	I don't remember saying anywhere that we should delete static lighting, Titak. I was talking about making movable lighting work exactly like for Lara/enemies. Especially that dynamic lighting seem to be less fps demanding than static lighting. This would be an instant win-win for everyone who wanted to achieve graphics greatness while keeping nice fps. EDIT: That reminds me. It would be fabulous if SOUND effect from room editor could use v130 slot sounds. Last edited by Caesum; 11-01-15 at 10:36.

25-01-15, 16:02	#375
Titak Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Drenthe, The Netherlands Posts: 33,302	This thread is for reporting confirmed bugs, not for discussing issues you might have with one particular level. Please make a seperate thread or use the general TRNG thread. __________________ If it walks like a duck and if it quacks like a duck, it is a duck.

17-02-15, 22:11	#376
A_De Archaeologist Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,316	After testing animations I found a bug: with FAN_RANDOM flag in Animation= command we can have maximum first 3 random animations. The others are being ignored. __________________ ...ARGENTINAMANITNEGRA...

18-03-15, 23:36	#377
tomb2player Archaeologist Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Poland Posts: 1,014	This thread as name says, is for reporting limitations as well. So I think that following thread and it's problem would fit here: http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=207917 I am posting it here, so maybe Paolone or someone else who know these kind of things will notice it and maybe in next versions of TRNG will be solved, if possible EDIT: I thought that I will post also thread about bugged Harpoon Gun: http://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=209480 Last edited by tomb2player; 18-03-15 at 23:39.

15-05-15, 16:15	#378
teme9 Professor Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 3,252	Can anyone confirm that "Cutscene" flipeffects stop working after updating the NGScripter/center to a 1.04.0192? (im using 1.2.2.7+ version of TRNG .dll) Before updating to the latest update the cutscene flipeffects worked without problems. edit I have no idea what has changed but now the cutscenes seem to be working again? I removed one assignslot= from my script and they started working. Something odd is going on! Last edited by teme9; 17-05-15 at 08:05.*

01-07-15, 10:02	#379
TombRaiderTim Archaeologist Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,873	Not really sure if anyone else has this but it seems the whole of the screen on the ngle in game appears as if it's zoomed in slightly, not displaying it completely. Although I have noticed it displays it all normally on windowed mode, so I am not too sure whats going on. __________________ "She will live on forever in our hearts." Last edited by TombRaiderTim; 01-07-15 at 10:17.

01-07-15, 10:30	#380
Joey79100 Professor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: France Posts: 3,713	Ulike TREP, TRNG's widescreen cuts the highest and lowest parts of the screen instead of adding more scenery to the sides. That's why it looks zoomed unfortunately.