TRNG - Bugs & Limitations Thread - Page 48

maati139 · 03-08-19, 14:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by klona

Swap them.
Use a GT to play your looping background track on channel 2.
Use channel 1 to play your other tracks. Tracks that play on channel 1 won't be interrupted in the diary.

This way when the player leaves the diary the background track will continue in channel 2.

Yeps, that smart idea and already I've made it this way few days ago

Thanks anyway

TombRaiderTim · 30-07-21, 11:33

I have an odd issue currently with NG_Center where I request to update from 1.3.0.0 on the control panel of the program and all I receive in the downloaded folder instead of "TRNG_Installer.exe" is something called "BaseFolder.bin" and nothing more.

loch · 23-08-21, 05:41

I've noticed there is a limitation with how many objects you can apply transparency to using an A53 trigger before these objects themselves start disappearing completely or the transparency is removed. Maybe its already been posted here I'm not sure...

I was using a number of movables in condition triggers using there transparency level as the condition. I then tried to use a movables current animation instead but this hasn't consistently been stable in save game memory on a reload.

I wonder does anyone have any other tricks that work for condition triggers other than using variables?

Cheers

justin · 23-08-21, 12:25

Very interesting to know about the transparency limit.

I always use the "creature is currently: active" condition for my globaltriggers, using random static movables that have no real animation (MIP objects are not savegame stable, though).

Hopefully this is some info that helps

loch · 24-08-21, 05:39

Ahuh! Nice one

, I've given this a try with some mixed results.

Initially this wasn't working consistently for me, maybe its because I was using a bridgeflat as the 'static' moveable. I was using the conditions - 'is not yet activated' and' is dead' as I was 'killing' it so the collision and dummy trigger were removed. Instead I'm now using a +TGROUP_NOT 'living and that seems to work consistently so far.

I had the same problem surprisingly with a flame emitter. I tried all combinations of the living/active dead/inactive conditions and so far The game still thinks its active when I haven't triggered it so I will probably just use something else in this instance, Oh how I wish for another 100 or so variables to boss around

At least I'ts teaching me to be more efficient, but I would really like to have released this damn level a month ago at least by now lol.

justin · 24-08-21, 12:17

This is what we get for being so ambitious, Loch

And yes, I originally also tried using Bridge_Flats with failed results! Then I tried MIPs with failed results. I've never had trouble with Smoke or Flame Emitters, though...

Either way, normal Animating 1-16 appear to be most savegame-stable for me for this trick

loch · 25-08-21, 02:20

Thats so good to see we are getting the same results. Its probably something I missed with the flame emitters but I got it to work with the 'killing' of the bridgeflat instead so I will leave that alone unless it doesnt hold.

Glad to see we can have confidence in the Animating objects also, thanks for that research

maati139 · 18-11-21, 00:30

Hi! Did anyone notice that shatter with ocb 1024 can be destroyed not only by explosives but also with shotgun?

Also I'm not using Customize=CUST_SHATTER_SPECIFIC

Is this a bug from 1.3.0.7 or it's just for my game?

justin · 18-11-21, 00:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by maati139

Hi! Did anyone notice that shatter with ocb 1024 can be destroyed not only by explosives but also with shotgun?

Also I'm not using Customize=CUST_SHATTER_SPECIFIC

Is this a bug from 1.3.0.7 or it's just for my game?

Hard shatter? Pretty sure that's normal behavior, unless there is an ocb specifically for explosive and anothef for hard shatter?

maati139 · 18-11-21, 00:36

From NG_Center:
If you add 1024 to ocb of some shatter object you can increase its hardness and the static will be destroyed only by explosive ammo (not flash grenade), sphinks, jeep, sidecar and Rollingball (if it has correct OCB).

.. and it should be destroyable only with explosives, but I've weird bug that in whole game I can use also shotgun (not pistols, sixshooter etc.)

30-07-21, 11:33	#472
TombRaiderTim Archaeologist Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,873	I have an odd issue currently with NG_Center where I request to update from 1.3.0.0 on the control panel of the program and all I receive in the downloaded folder instead of "TRNG_Installer.exe" is something called "BaseFolder.bin" and nothing more. __________________ "She will live on forever in our hearts."

23-08-21, 12:25	#474
justin Professor Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: CT, USA Posts: 4,742	Very interesting to know about the transparency limit. I always use the "creature is currently: active" condition for my globaltriggers, using random static movables that have no real animation (MIP objects are not savegame stable, though). Hopefully this is some info that helps __________________ Nothing is impossible, just impractical

24-08-21, 12:17	#476
justin Professor Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: CT, USA Posts: 4,742	This is what we get for being so ambitious, Loch And yes, I originally also tried using Bridge_Flats with failed results! Then I tried MIPs with failed results. I've never had trouble with Smoke or Flame Emitters, though... Either way, normal Animating 1-16 appear to be most savegame-stable for me for this trick __________________ Nothing is impossible, just impractical

18-11-21, 00:30	#478
maati139 Explorer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Poland, Cracow Posts: 533	Hi! Did anyone notice that shatter with ocb 1024 can be destroyed not only by explosives but also with shotgun? Also I'm not using Customize=CUST_SHATTER_SPECIFIC Is this a bug from 1.3.0.7 or it's just for my game? __________________ we could belong together

18-11-21, 00:36	#480
maati139 Explorer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Poland, Cracow Posts: 533	From NG_Center: If you add 1024 to ocb of some shatter object you can increase its hardness and the static will be destroyed only by explosive ammo (not flash grenade), sphinks, jeep, sidecar and Rollingball (if it has correct OCB). .. and it should be destroyable only with explosives, but I've weird bug that in whole game I can use also shotgun (not pistols, sixshooter etc.) __________________ we could belong together Last edited by maati139; 18-11-21 at 00:39.

23-08-21, 05:41	#473
loch Student Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oz Posts: 187	I've noticed there is a limitation with how many objects you can apply transparency to using an A53 trigger before these objects themselves start disappearing completely or the transparency is removed. Maybe its already been posted here I'm not sure... I was using a number of movables in condition triggers using there transparency level as the condition. I then tried to use a movables current animation instead but this hasn't consistently been stable in save game memory on a reload. I wonder does anyone have any other tricks that work for condition triggers other than using variables? Cheers

24-08-21, 05:39	#475
loch Student Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oz Posts: 187	Ahuh! Nice one , I've given this a try with some mixed results. Initially this wasn't working consistently for me, maybe its because I was using a bridgeflat as the 'static' moveable. I was using the conditions - 'is not yet activated' and' is dead' as I was 'killing' it so the collision and dummy trigger were removed. Instead I'm now using a +TGROUP_NOT 'living and that seems to work consistently so far. I had the same problem surprisingly with a flame emitter. I tried all combinations of the living/active dead/inactive conditions and so far The game still thinks its active when I haven't triggered it so I will probably just use something else in this instance, Oh how I wish for another 100 or so variables to boss around At least I'ts teaching me to be more efficient, but I would really like to have released this damn level a month ago at least by now lol.

25-08-21, 02:20	#477
loch Student Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oz Posts: 187	Thats so good to see we are getting the same results. Its probably something I missed with the flame emitters but I got it to work with the 'killing' of the bridgeflat instead so I will leave that alone unless it doesnt hold. Glad to see we can have confidence in the Animating objects also, thanks for that research