TRNG - Bugs & Limitations Thread - Page 49

justin · 18-11-21, 00:45

A bug certainly makes sense. I had an issue where I couldn't recreate the Shatter8/9 object (only breakable by templar). No matter what OCB I used, or which slot it was in, Lara could break it with the pistols, or sometimes the shotgun.

What I had to do was create a dummy static object that was a bit bigger than the shatter object to prevent Lara from shooting the Shatter, while still allowing the Templar to break it (bullets won't go through the Dummy Static, but Templar's sword will).

Then I just triggered the dummy to disappear when the shatter shattered. It was a convoluted workaround that shouldn't have been needed, but it worked for my application (luckily).

This may work for you, since explosives should also get past any dummy static collision.

maati139 · 18-11-21, 01:03

Thanks, I will keep that solution in mind but still I'm looking for some more global, scripted solution because I need to implement this to the whole game, in many places.

update:

It seems that I can use CUSTOMIZE= CUST_SHATTER_SPECIFIC, CROSSBOW_AMMO3_ITEM, GRENADE_GUN_AMMO1_ITEM, GRENADE_GUN_AMMO2_ITEM and ocb8192 to have effect like with old ocb 1024.. or at least I didn't find at moment any further problems with that solution. If this will not work, I'll make another update with solutions.

justin · 18-11-21, 03:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by maati139

update:

It seems that I can use CUSTOMIZE= CUST_SHATTER_SPECIFIC, CROSSBOW_AMMO3_ITEM, GRENADE_GUN_AMMO1_ITEM, GRENADE_GUN_AMMO2_ITEM and ocb8192 to have effect like with old ocb 1024.. or at least I didn't find at moment any further problems with that solution. If this will not work, I'll make another update with solutions.

Ah nice! I never even noticed that useful customize

turneraider · 26-05-22, 04:16

I've posted about this bug before, but I think I've narrowed it down and figured out it happens to levels using NGLE..

Not sure if this also has to do with DS4 as I don't ever remember experiencing it in the past, but I get horrible down arrow lag in all custom levels to the point where they're unplayable without a controller! Other people said they've had it happen before, but also didn't know the cause..

I recently deleted all my TRLE folders and reinstalled everything to start clean and as soon as I install NGLE the lag begins, which is what makes me believe that's the issue.. Not 100% positive, but this issue is super annoying so if anyone could look into it that would be great!

Richard_trle · 26-05-22, 06:08

Speaking of statics and bugs.

I think it probably has been documented before, but a static with scalable OCB can activate Heavy Triggers with collision. This is very odd.

justin · 25-07-22, 14:43

So I've recently noticed a bug with savegames in my game when they are shared between computers: inventory items disappear

For reference, I'm using Aky's plugin to use NVARs in conjunction with JMN's Classic Ring Inventory plugin. This is relevant because I'm using NVARs to store the value of some item quantities. These items disappear if I save the game on one computer, then transfer the savegame to another computer.

Is it possible that the values are being saved somewhere else outside of the Engine folder?

Even worse is sometimes the Save and Load items disappear from the inventory, and I have no idea why that would happen, since those are not using any custom values.

SrDanielPonces · 25-07-22, 18:42

Most likely those plugins aren't compatible. AkyV probably tested those features on default inventory, not the ring one.

**AkyV** · 25-07-22, 23:00

In a user-friendly language, JMN reformed highly more menu callbacks (procedures) to get a nicely working ring inventory. My plugins naturally refer to the original procedures, which unfortunately makes incompatibility here or there. However, the issues are not evident, many features work nicely in both inventory types.

justin · 25-07-22, 23:09

I'll need to do some tests, maybe try using old variables for the ring quantities and see what happens...

*UPDATE*

I think I solved the issue by calling for an old variable for the quantities for the Ring Inventory (like Global Short Beta2), and then transfering those old variables to the GIN41-45 only when jumping levels (necessary due to ResetHUB). Initial tests are positive

kelvinsecolo · 20-09-22, 16:30

Hey everyone, good morning.

Well, I don't know if this should be the right thread to ask but I'll try it.

I'm trying to add the sunglasses to Poyu's AOD model to use in Last Revelation's engine. (https://www.trsearch.org/item/3122)

In order to do that, I have to make sure that the face with the glasses reach at maximum 255 polygons so the game won't crash. The face itself without the glasses has 251 polygons and the glasses has 31. Before positioning and adding the glasses on Lara I needed to reduce that amount of polygons from her in Metasequoia. The problem here is... when I do that, the textures in her eyes get all screwed up. I tried to post a screenshot but for some reason tombraiderforums won't let me. But basically it is what I described.

I'm trying to find a smarter way to do that but couldn't so far. Does anyone have any idea of how I could get a nicer result?

18-11-21, 00:45	#481
justin Professor Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: CT, USA Posts: 4,742	A bug certainly makes sense. I had an issue where I couldn't recreate the Shatter8/9 object (only breakable by templar). No matter what OCB I used, or which slot it was in, Lara could break it with the pistols, or sometimes the shotgun. What I had to do was create a dummy static object that was a bit bigger than the shatter object to prevent Lara from shooting the Shatter, while still allowing the Templar to break it (bullets won't go through the Dummy Static, but Templar's sword will). Then I just triggered the dummy to disappear when the shatter shattered. It was a convoluted workaround that shouldn't have been needed, but it worked for my application (luckily). This may work for you, since explosives should also get past any dummy static collision. __________________ Nothing is impossible, just impractical

18-11-21, 01:03	#482
maati139 Explorer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Poland, Cracow Posts: 533	Thanks, I will keep that solution in mind but still I'm looking for some more global, scripted solution because I need to implement this to the whole game, in many places. update: It seems that I can use CUSTOMIZE= CUST_SHATTER_SPECIFIC, CROSSBOW_AMMO3_ITEM, GRENADE_GUN_AMMO1_ITEM, GRENADE_GUN_AMMO2_ITEM and ocb8192 to have effect like with old ocb 1024.. or at least I didn't find at moment any further problems with that solution. If this will not work, I'll make another update with solutions. __________________ we could belong together Last edited by maati139; 18-11-21 at 01:31.

26-05-22, 04:16	#484
turneraider Explorer Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 706	I've posted about this bug before, but I think I've narrowed it down and figured out it happens to levels using NGLE.. Not sure if this also has to do with DS4 as I don't ever remember experiencing it in the past, but I get horrible down arrow lag in all custom levels to the point where they're unplayable without a controller! Other people said they've had it happen before, but also didn't know the cause.. I recently deleted all my TRLE folders and reinstalled everything to start clean and as soon as I install NGLE the lag begins, which is what makes me believe that's the issue.. Not 100% positive, but this issue is super annoying so if anyone could look into it that would be great! __________________ I don't know, I just work here.

25-07-22, 14:43	#486
justin Professor Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: CT, USA Posts: 4,742	Inventory items disappearing when savegame is shared So I've recently noticed a bug with savegames in my game when they are shared between computers: inventory items disappear For reference, I'm using Aky's plugin to use NVARs in conjunction with JMN's Classic Ring Inventory plugin. This is relevant because I'm using NVARs to store the value of some item quantities. These items disappear if I save the game on one computer, then transfer the savegame to another computer. Is it possible that the values are being saved somewhere else outside of the Engine folder? Even worse is sometimes the Save and Load items disappear from the inventory, and I have no idea why that would happen, since those are not using any custom values. __________________ Nothing is impossible, just impractical

25-07-22, 23:09	#489
justin Professor Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: CT, USA Posts: 4,742	I'll need to do some tests, maybe try using old variables for the ring quantities and see what happens... *UPDATE* I think I solved the issue by calling for an old variable for the quantities for the Ring Inventory (like Global Short Beta2), and then transfering those old variables to the GIN41-45 only when jumping levels (necessary due to ResetHUB). Initial tests are positive __________________ Nothing is impossible, just impractical Last edited by justin; 29-07-22 at 18:27.

26-05-22, 06:08	#485
Richard_trle Explorer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Brazil Posts: 920	Speaking of statics and bugs. I think it probably has been documented before, but a static with scalable OCB can activate Heavy Triggers with collision. This is very odd.

25-07-22, 18:42	#487
SrDanielPonces Tomb Raider Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Insanity Posts: 10,281	Most likely those plugins aren't compatible. AkyV probably tested those features on default inventory, not the ring one.

25-07-22, 23:00	#488
AkyV Moderator Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Hungary Posts: 4,819	In a user-friendly language, JMN reformed highly more menu callbacks (procedures) to get a nicely working ring inventory. My plugins naturally refer to the original procedures, which unfortunately makes incompatibility here or there. However, the issues are not evident, many features work nicely in both inventory types.

20-09-22, 16:30	#490
kelvinsecolo Student Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 131	Hey everyone, good morning. Well, I don't know if this should be the right thread to ask but I'll try it. I'm trying to add the sunglasses to Poyu's AOD model to use in Last Revelation's engine. (https://www.trsearch.org/item/3122) In order to do that, I have to make sure that the face with the glasses reach at maximum 255 polygons so the game won't crash. The face itself without the glasses has 251 polygons and the glasses has 31. Before positioning and adding the glasses on Lara I needed to reduce that amount of polygons from her in Metasequoia. The problem here is... when I do that, the textures in her eyes get all screwed up. I tried to post a screenshot but for some reason tombraiderforums won't let me. But basically it is what I described. I'm trying to find a smarter way to do that but couldn't so far. Does anyone have any idea of how I could get a nicer result?