Flare and Weapon Shortcuts not working properly on PS5 using tank controls

straychild · 07-11-24, 02:17

This is the problem with the patched version (I think it started with patch 1):
While I'm running with the D-pad using trank controls and try to light a flare (or draw a weapon) with the combination Menu+R1, it is impossible, because the menu will open by pressing the menu button down -> no chance to do the combination. When I use the right analog stick for running however, the combination is possible to perform, because the menu will open by releasing the pressed down menu button, BUT she will stop running and you have to wait for the flare drawing animation to finish before she will run again, thouh you are holding the running direction down the whole time.

Before the patches it was actually this way:
While running with the D-pad, the combination was possible to do, but it behaved the same, as if I'm using the right analog stick for running now.
Using the right analog stick for running, the combinations would work flawelessly!
But I need the D-Pad for tank controls, so this isn't an option for me either. Also before the patches, Lara would fall of ladders and ledges, when going in and out of the menu, despite X being pressed. This was actually fixed with the patches! but it introduced this new even worse shortcut problem.

The same thing happens, if I'm using a PS5 controller with my GOG version! It does not happen, if I'm using my PS3 controller with keyboard layout mapped on it. I can't map keyboard keys on my Dual Sense, though, because it immediatly gets recognized as a controller by the game.

Workarounds so far:
- Use flare and weapon shortcuts during a jump, with letting go of any directional button from the d-pad
- From a standing position, the menu button will also only open after releasing the menu button, not by pressing it down, so it is possible to use the combination and you can start running while she still is doing the flare drawing animation

I wanna know, if other console users are experiencing this problem? I remember switch users reporting the same issue in the first months, maybe it was fixed for all other consoles? PS4 seems to be okay??

Please let me know, what you think? I hope this can get a hotfix for PS5 somehow.

mizuno_suisei · 07-11-24, 02:22

I replied to the other thread- it's also present in PC patch 4 -you cannot press any direction while attempting - However it does work the very moment you let go- even before her stumble to idle finishes.

straychild · 07-11-24, 02:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by mizuno_suisei

I replied to the other thread- it's also present in PC patch 4 -you cannot press any direction while attempting - However it does work the very moment you let go- even before her stumble to idle finishes.

Ah alright, I was looking a little bit into PC version myself and switched from patched to release version. I guess my PS3 controller workaround only works on the unpatched version. Just tried it with patch 3 and no chance. But these games shouldn't need workarounds

sry for being an aw opening this extra thead, I'm just interested if it was fixed for other consoles, because in the Any Patches thread some users claimed, they'd had no problem at all

xtimz · 07-11-24, 03:34

The combination keys in controllers are evil. Programs should never rely on them.

straychild · 07-11-24, 23:22

there is a square shaped hole in this thread.

topazlink · 08-11-24, 10:45

It's been like this on PC for a while, what's even weirder is that when Lara is in motion when using a controller, the keyboard shortcuts for weapons stop working too, but every other key on the keyboard works. If you stop moving, the keyboard weapon shortcuts work.

Lil Fae · 08-11-24, 12:17

I've got the same problem on Xbox S with a controller since patch 3. I send tickets to Aspyr site.
I hope they fix this issue, we need it.

straychild · 11-11-24, 00:42

Controller control problem gotten out of control-it seems like more people are experiencing this problem.

Well I just remember how nice it was running and jumping and thumbling around with Lara and lighting a flare at all time without any problem (works in TR3 with the combination on PS1 and PC, without issues) new weapon shortcuts are awesome, and should work the same

But it seems not so important

07-11-24, 02:17	#1
straychild Member Joined: Jun 2015 Posts: 586	Flare and Weapon Shortcuts not working properly on PS5 using tank controls This is the problem with the patched version (I think it started with patch 1): While I'm running with the D-pad using trank controls and try to light a flare (or draw a weapon) with the combination Menu+R1, it is impossible, because the menu will open by pressing the menu button down -> no chance to do the combination. When I use the right analog stick for running however, the combination is possible to perform, because the menu will open by releasing the pressed down menu button, BUT she will stop running and you have to wait for the flare drawing animation to finish before she will run again, thouh you are holding the running direction down the whole time. Before the patches it was actually this way: While running with the D-pad, the combination was possible to do, but it behaved the same, as if I'm using the right analog stick for running now. Using the right analog stick for running, the combinations would work flawelessly! But I need the D-Pad for tank controls, so this isn't an option for me either. Also before the patches, Lara would fall of ladders and ledges, when going in and out of the menu, despite X being pressed. This was actually fixed with the patches! but it introduced this new even worse shortcut problem. The same thing happens, if I'm using a PS5 controller with my GOG version! It does not happen, if I'm using my PS3 controller with keyboard layout mapped on it. I can't map keyboard keys on my Dual Sense, though, because it immediatly gets recognized as a controller by the game. Workarounds so far: - Use flare and weapon shortcuts during a jump, with letting go of any directional button from the d-pad - From a standing position, the menu button will also only open after releasing the menu button, not by pressing it down, so it is possible to use the combination and you can start running while she still is doing the flare drawing animation I wanna know, if other console users are experiencing this problem? I remember switch users reporting the same issue in the first months, maybe it was fixed for all other consoles? PS4 seems to be okay?? Please let me know, what you think? I hope this can get a hotfix for PS5 somehow.

07-11-24, 02:22	#2
mizuno_suisei Member Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 7,238	I replied to the other thread- it's also present in PC patch 4 -you cannot press any direction while attempting - However it does work the very moment you let go- even before her stumble to idle finishes.

07-11-24, 03:34	#4
xtimz Member Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 1,414	The combination keys in controllers are evil. Programs should never rely on them.

07-11-24, 23:22	#5
straychild Member Joined: Jun 2015 Posts: 586	there is a square shaped hole in this thread.

08-11-24, 10:45	#6
topazlink Member Joined: Sep 2015 Posts: 201	It's been like this on PC for a while, what's even weirder is that when Lara is in motion when using a controller, the keyboard shortcuts for weapons stop working too, but every other key on the keyboard works. If you stop moving, the keyboard weapon shortcuts work.

08-11-24, 12:17	#7
Lil Fae Member Joined: Jun 2024 Posts: 10	I've got the same problem on Xbox S with a controller since patch 3. I send tickets to Aspyr site. I hope they fix this issue, we need it.

11-11-24, 00:42	#8
straychild Member Joined: Jun 2015 Posts: 586	Controller control problem gotten out of control-it seems like more people are experiencing this problem. Well I just remember how nice it was running and jumping and thumbling around with Lara and lighting a flare at all time without any problem (works in TR3 with the combination on PS1 and PC, without issues) new weapon shortcuts are awesome, and should work the same But it seems not so important