Tomb Raider 3 - Beta, October 5 1998

[Helegad]

Originally Posted by LoreRaider

@Helegad: her legs can't be seen because of the camera, and I'm pretty sure about that, because the movement and the position of them it's pretty odd

I stand corrected then

[Kirishima]

I'm only wondering if the audio is still in XA. Watching videos is enough of an experience for me of this beta.

[Boobandie]

Are the levels in this beta in a format close enough to the final game that assets can be extracted from them with TRLE tools?

[Helegad]

Originally Posted by Kirishima

I'm only wondering if the audio is still in XA. Watching videos is enough of an experience for me of this beta.

Originally Posted by jonathanrij

I can only confirm that there are no extra audio tracks in this build and that all audio tracks that are present match the ones in the final build. I used jPSXdec to verify this.

XA was probably decided on from the start. Core upgraded the engine in a number of ways for III.

[Gh0stBlade]

Originally Posted by Helegad

XA was probably decided on from the start. Core upgraded the engine in a number of ways for III.

Nope. ECTS build (dated a month prior) still used CDDA.

[Nate]

Can't wait to see Nevada keep up the good work!

[Johnnay]

Originally Posted by jonathanrij

Anyway...

I'm recording Nevada Desert tonight. Unfortunately, some triggers are broken or unimplemented, so it won't be an "organic" playthrough. Still interesting, though!

I can’t wait for you to record Thames Wharf ( my favorite level)

I also can’t wait for All Hallows too, particularly seeing it after Thames Wharf is gonna feel weird since we are used to Aldwych after


It annoys me how a month before TR3 release All Hallows’ is after Thames Wharf but got dropped out in favour of Lara teleporting from a church roof to a train station lol

[New Dwight]

Originally Posted by Johnnay

It annoys me how a month before TR3 release All Hallows’ is after Thames Wharf but got dropped out in favour of Lara teleporting from a church roof to a train station lol

When I saw that, it literally made no sense.

[LaraCablara]

Originally Posted by New Dwight

When I saw that, it literally made no sense.

I think it’s because if they had not then the London section would have been 5 levels long, more than any other section of the game.

Personally I would have kept All Hallows’ and then cut half of Lud’s gate or something. Maybe Sophia and Lara could have met at the beginning of Luds Gate in a cutscene (somehow, like rework the story a bit) and they could have stuck the fight at the end. I think they only split the levels because they could not do a cut scene and have Luds Gate continue with the boss fight.

[New Dwight]

Originally Posted by LaraCablara

I think it’s because if they had not then the London section would have been 5 levels long, more than any other section of the game.

Personally I would have kept All Hallows’ and then cut half of Lud’s gate or something. Maybe Sophia and Lara could have met at the beginning of Luds Gate in a cutscene (somehow, like rework the story a bit) and they could have stuck the fight at the end. I think they only split the levels because they could not do a cut scene and have Luds Gate continue with the boss fight.

whatever their reason was, All Hallows need to be there somehow.