Tomb Raider 3 - Beta, October 5 1998 - Page 7

Ruu11 · 16-01-19, 12:18

Yaaaayy

New Dwight · 16-01-19, 12:24

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Originally Posted by Ruu11

Yaaaayy

no link

maybe you shouldn't do that.
@jonathanrij will post the next video when gets time.

LoreRaider · 16-01-19, 12:46

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Originally Posted by Helegad

I stand corrected then

You probably didn't understood what I meant or it was just me writing the post in a wrong way
What I meant was that the animation is literally the same in both TR2 and TR3 HSC, her legs has an odd movement because the cutscene doesn't let you see them, you would see them going threw the floor without flyby cameras

If you don't believe that, well... there are 2 options, one is to compare Gh0st and my video together, second would be looking yourself at both the files

Dustie · 16-01-19, 14:02

Yeah it does look a bit like she's supposed to be getting up from bed or something, instead of getting up from the floor, but the camera in the TR2 cutscene does indeed crop that part out

jonathanrij · 16-01-19, 15:45

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Originally Posted by New Dwight

maybe you shouldn't do that.
@jonathanrij will post the next video when gets time.

It's fine.

The main purpose of this thread is to serve as an open archive of documentation related to this particular beta, but I guess I should have made my OP more inclusive. I definitely encourage the community to share their findings and/or thoughts to promote conversation and to ensure accuracy.

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Originally Posted by Johnnay

I can’t wait for you to record Thames Wharf ( my favorite level)

I intend to record Thames Wharf this weekend, followed by All Hallows. I hope you won't be disappointed by them, though. Thames Wharf has relatively minor differences (from what I've seen so far) and All Hallows ends too early. :/

Also, the Nevada Desert video is coming tonight.

Edit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIHOdqGQGuM

Check the description for a list of differences.

The level was a bit of pain to finish, due to the electricity staying on and Lara being unable to open the doors (because the lever isn't directly above a straight surface). Therefore, I got rid of the electricity manually and moved the lever to an appropriate spot. I could have also ended the level without the quadbike, but there's no fun in that.

Johnnay · 17-01-19, 23:54

Also with Nevada Desert you don’t get to see the planes swooping by compared to the final version

Also I can’t believe there is some brightness in the beta compared to the final where the game is dark

Woops · 21-01-19, 17:24

Really interesting thread here. I'm glad we know what CUT10 is now

I took the time to make videos of some inaccessible areas in this beta, those being the door in Lara's Home and most of High Security Compound.

High Security Compound:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XnaJDaSYtc

Lara's Home door:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErLt6Tyqhlw

As you can see there are some interesting differences in the Compound, most notably the textures and the different death animation for the gun guard. The problem with this level is a game crash that always occurs when passing a certain spot in the level, which I was able to get around with some precision. And the two double doors don't open. There's also a randomly placed level end trigger in the "kitchen" area. It's also clear the level was supposed to end when entering the "storage" area instead of the truck like the retail build.

For Lara's home it seems to be the exact same as Tomb Raider 2. I believe the geometry behind the glass is slightly different but it's way too dark to tell and everytime I tried hacking Lara behind the glass the game crashed.

Dustie · 21-01-19, 19:48

Well the Compound looks like a mess, obviously, it's interesting though that the cutscene after it seems finished at the same time? Funny how they also plastered temporary texture all over everything while working on geometry...

The cellar in Home is obviously unfinished and it's probably just the same rooms as TR2 with textures removed/replaced for temp ones...

LaraCablara · 22-01-19, 01:08

Looks like they build the entire level before doing the textures. I feel bad for whoever had to go back to all those rooms and fix that hot mess.

Kirishima · 22-01-19, 08:02

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Originally Posted by Woops

As you can see there are some interesting differences in the Compound, most notably the textures and the different death animation for the gun guard.

Looks like the animation used for the soldiers in TLR.

17-01-19, 23:54	#66
Johnnay Tomb Raider Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cupertino Posts: 19,280	Also with Nevada Desert you don’t get to see the planes swooping by compared to the final version Also I can’t believe there is some brightness in the beta compared to the final where the game is dark __________________ I believe, I called you a bitch, bitch: Quinn to Sheila Last edited by Johnnay; 17-01-19 at 23:55.

21-01-19, 17:24	#67
Woops Archaeologist Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Invercargill Posts: 1,476	Really interesting thread here. I'm glad we know what CUT10 is now I took the time to make videos of some inaccessible areas in this beta, those being the door in Lara's Home and most of High Security Compound. High Security Compound: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XnaJDaSYtc Lara's Home door: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErLt6Tyqhlw As you can see there are some interesting differences in the Compound, most notably the textures and the different death animation for the gun guard. The problem with this level is a game crash that always occurs when passing a certain spot in the level, which I was able to get around with some precision. And the two double doors don't open. There's also a randomly placed level end trigger in the "kitchen" area. It's also clear the level was supposed to end when entering the "storage" area instead of the truck like the retail build. For Lara's home it seems to be the exact same as Tomb Raider 2. I believe the geometry behind the glass is slightly different but it's way too dark to tell and everytime I tried hacking Lara behind the glass the game crashed. __________________ I like cats

16-01-19, 12:18	#61
Ruu11 Archaeologist Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Spain Posts: 1,051	Yaaaayy

16-01-19, 14:02	#64
Dustie Relic Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 9,208	Yeah it does look a bit like she's supposed to be getting up from bed or something, instead of getting up from the floor, but the camera in the TR2 cutscene does indeed crop that part out

21-01-19, 19:48	#68
Dustie Relic Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Poland Posts: 9,208	Well the Compound looks like a mess, obviously, it's interesting though that the cutscene after it seems finished at the same time? Funny how they also plastered temporary texture all over everything while working on geometry... The cellar in Home is obviously unfinished and it's probably just the same rooms as TR2 with textures removed/replaced for temp ones...

22-01-19, 01:08	#69
LaraCablara Professor Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,429	Looks like they build the entire level before doing the textures. I feel bad for whoever had to go back to all those rooms and fix that hot mess.