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Old 16-09-19, 19:55   #21
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wasn't she "poor" in tr2013?
Don't think she was actually poor in TR2013, but she worked in a pub and rented a flat or something like that.. I think
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Old 16-09-19, 20:20   #22
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Going back to the original bio is definitely something I want. I always found it a missed opportunity CD didn't do so with the Reboot. They came up with such a contrived backstory as to why Lara didn't have access to the family wealth in the name of making her ~relatable~ when they could just use the Classic bio and make TR13 the first adventure after her parents disowned her: she would be cut off from the fortune and while her aunties would offer to help, Lara being a proud young woman would want to prove she could do it on her own and insist in providing for herself. Then, a few years down the line, her great-auntie dies and Lara inherits her manor and whatever small fortune said auntie had.

In any case, I disagree with the notion that making Lara poor would somehow make her thieving more acceptable/understandable/relatable. It wouldn't. If you want to steer away from the neo-colonialism implications of the rich British woman stealing from other cultures* just make it so Lara donates her findings to local museums or something.

*although I don't think this is necessary. There's no problem with anti-hero Lara who chose this lifestyle because she's an adrenaline junkie with a passion for history. The devs just need to acknowledge this and not try to paint her as a hero and her thieving as some grand destiny.
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Old 16-09-19, 21:26   #23
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Going back to the original bio is definitely something I want. I always found it a missed opportunity CD didn't do so with the Reboot. They came up with such a contrived backstory as to why Lara didn't have access to the family wealth in the name of making her ~relatable~ when they could just use the Classic bio and make TR13 the first adventure after her parents disowned her: she would be cut off from the fortune and while her aunties would offer to help, Lara being a proud young woman would want to prove she could do it on her own and insist in providing for herself. Then, a few years down the line, her great-auntie dies and Lara inherits her manor and whatever small fortune said auntie had.

In any case, I disagree with the notion that making Lara poor would somehow make her thieving more acceptable/understandable/relatable. It wouldn't. If you want to steer away from the neo-colonialism implications of the rich British woman stealing from other cultures* just make it so Lara donates her findings to local museums or something.

*although I don't think this is necessary. There's no problem with anti-hero Lara who chose this lifestyle because she's an adrenaline junkie with a passion for history. The devs just need to acknowledge this and not try to paint her as a hero and her thieving as some grand destiny.
I find it highly ironic because I actually find Classic Lara more relatable.

She raids tombs for fun, I raid tombs for fun.

We can have "Non-relatable" characters that are fun and intresting, Part 4 of Jojo for instance absolutely none of those characters are quite like a normal human being but they're fun and I want to see more of them.
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Old 16-09-19, 21:30   #24
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I find it highly ironic because I actually find Classic Lara more relatable.

She raids tombs for fun, I raid tombs for fun.
Oh, I totally agree. By going out of their way to make Lara more "relatable", they actually ended up making her less so for me.
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Old 16-09-19, 21:58   #25
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Oh, I totally agree. By going out of their way to make Lara more "relatable", they actually ended up making her less so for me.
I was just gonna say that I agree with your first post but then I saw and I have to quote this marvellous post and give you a thumbs up

They tried so hard to make reboot Lara relatable that she ended up being even more unrealistic than Classic Lara. For example:

- It CAN happen but let's face that probably only like 0.0001% of rich people (especially those born in aristocracy) would walk away from your own inheritance after being orphaned as a child. And while CD retconned Atlas in and all the blood ties mess, Lara has especifically said in the comics that she didn't try chasing her fortune for 'personal reasons'.

- Lara then proceeds to work in a bar to support her apartment rent in CENTRAL LONDON and all the expenses that come with that. That is unrealistic in and of itself, even if Lara is incredibly attractive and even IF she worked ina stripper bar. Oh and let's not forget that she is incredibly socially awkward, so I don't imagine she gets that many tips

- Besides rent, food, clothes, bills, paying for her equipment Lara probably has to pay for college doesn't she? She went to UCL, which I'm guessing isn't free

- despite all the **** she went through she is still a great person and only loses it when the plot calls for it. And it lasts like 3 seconds and she's back on her feet

- Easily survives things that would either kill or severely impair any human just in 2013 alone

- Speaks ancient languages fluently when she is just out of college, ancient Chinese AND Japanese, both notoriously hard languages to learn even today, now consider the fact that languages evolve and it's hardly gonna be the same it was 2000 years ago.

- She uses said knowledge and on her very first expedition and manages to find Yamatai. She makes a world changing discovery for her field on her FIRST try.

I mean, c'mon I get it that Lara is supposed to be The Lara Croft but make her do all of that and still take away the majority of things that made her an interesting character in order to make her "relatable" is just insulting.

I'm sorry but no, I don't relate to someone who is not a millionaire by choice (a flimsy one at that) and makes life changing breakthroughs at the age of 21 on her first expedition.
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Oh, I totally agree. By going out of their way to make Lara more "relatable", they actually ended up making her less so for me.
I also agree with this. I related to Lara more when she was a witty adrenaline junkie, with a taste for adventure.

At first, it’d probably seem weird and strongly hard to believe that a rich woman that never has to answer to anyone would be more relatable but it is nonetheless. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Old 17-09-19, 00:42   #27
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CD really needs to strike a good balance.

LAU took Classic Lara's cheesiness too far.
Survivor Lara took Classic Lara's seriousness too far.

Classic Lara striked the perfect balance. She was relatable, yet she was the woman you wanted to be. Sure she can be cold at times, but that's her. Once you warm up to her she's better than you think.


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Old 17-09-19, 00:51   #28
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I just don't know why they ever tried to achieve Lara as a relatable character. She's fundamentally unrealistic in a completely unrealistic setting. No one can have Lara as a friend, no one can be Lara - she's simply unobtainable in every sense. And that's the charm of her and what always made her a standout character.



I simply cannot relate to the white rich girl with parental problems who acts like a victim.
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Old 17-09-19, 00:57   #29
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I just don't know why they ever tried to achieve Lara as a relatable character. She's fundamentally unrealistic in a completely unrealistic setting. No one can have Lara as a friend, no one can be Lara - she's simply unobtainable in every sense. And that's the charm of her and what always made her a standout character.



I simply cannot relate to the white rich girl with parental problems who acts like a victim.
I relate to rich white girl with parental problems...but the disowned one.

Classic lara reminds me of the struggles of Old vs. new. The generational gap. My parents don't really "accept" me being gay. It's a similar concept.

The only thing I can relate to with Survivor Lara is being awkward as **** and being choosy with my friends and wanting everyone to like me. But that's boring. I want Lara Croft to be the woman I want to be. The power fantasy that has some relatable traits.

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Old 17-09-19, 02:13   #30
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No, go back to the original bio. It has so much potential if it's done right. I love that Lara is famous for her discoveries and that she writes books about her adventures and supports her lifestyle that way. Tomb Raider 1 got the biography right, so it's a shame they didn't stick to it.
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