The tomb4 project - Page 9

Woops · 31-03-22, 00:53

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Originally Posted by LateRaider

all i'm waiting for is the ammo counter �� everything else is amazing extras

soon since the code for it is already done from tomb5

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Originally Posted by .snake.

Not sure if this counts as a bug or a "big feature" but it's another request...

In the level Inside the Great Pyramid, after Lara places all 4 star shaft keys to activate the 4 blue light beams, there is an explosion effect that happens. After triggering this, if you save and reload through the rest of the level, the explosion effect always happens again and again. This is even common in TRLE levels that use this effect. I was just wondering if it is possible to fix this in any way so it doesn't keep repeating?

this is intended, and won't be changed

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Originally Posted by Teeth

Oh my god I've just looked at footage on YouTube and now I can't unsee this, the magic is ruined!

Has anyone been able to rip this model? I'm really curious now

it's in the "FIREROPE" slot in some TR5 levels, I believe.
you can also notice the lighting being completely broken on dreamcast, but no one ever noticed as they were too busy looking at the shadow

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Originally Posted by .snake.

I think I just encountered a bug:

In Hypostyle Hall, after aligning the 3 obelisk switches, Lara refuses to pull the chain. She just says "No". I've double checked a few times to make sure the obelisks are in the correct position, and saved and reloaded, and she still just says "No"...

this is an original bug, according to the internet, turning that one obelisk in that direction solves it:

will definitely fix it at a later time.

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Originally Posted by Vitin_96

Hey, Troye! One thing that I noticed while messing around with the 1.0 exe that comes with the disc version, is that a lot of the weapons and some items have a really cool shinning effect applied over them.
https://imgur.com/l3yD4JM
https://imgur.com/jKQ4Lzn
https://imgur.com/b7VoNat
https://imgur.com/xI3qgeW

Here's a comparison with the later pc builds:
https://imgur.com/Alh8Kse
https://imgur.com/dTgeGm9
https://imgur.com/2d1HHCd
https://imgur.com/t3js2lH

Also, in the ps1 version, in the Cairo levels, a sound similar to the revolver shot can be always heard just before swarm of Locusts appears, indicating that it spawned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSG5bSWyAtE&t=4500s
Around 6:48:41 and 6:42:17

Do you think these features could be restored?

hi, I've actually noticed the shine before and looked into it. it is a bug. missing code, rather. on those builds the game always uses the highest strength for the shine. will not be restored, sorry
as for the sound, I'll see why it doesn't play on PC, thank you

ToMbRaIdErxFtW · 31-03-22, 04:10

regarding the loading bar and loading text, is there any chance we could have it moved down lower towards the bottom of the screen like the PS1 version?

ATombRaiderFan · 31-03-22, 10:48

Just to report a few more bugs, all tomb4 related. Here's the save files for some of these issues if you would like them:

In Valley of the Kings, at the descent before the end of the level, there is something causing Lara's Jeep to get dragged around a bit. The same thing also happens near the end of KV5. (savegame.4)
At the start of KV5, when Lara approaches the enemy Land-Rover, it does not move. (savegame.5)
After KV5 ends, the cutscene Fmv04 does not play. (savegame.9)

There's a further two minor bugs that I thought is worth mentioning as well:

In Angkor Wat, after Werner gives you instructions on how to swing with a rope, he starts walking into a door without stopping. (savegame.11)
There's a texture oddity on the main menu, when the camera passes through the window.

Anyway, hope you don't mind the lengthy bug report. I'm having a lot of fun playing Last Revelation again

Woops · 31-03-22, 14:18

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Originally Posted by ToMbRaIdErxFtW

regarding the loading bar and loading text, is there any chance we could have it moved down lower towards the bottom of the screen like the PS1 version?

Yep, will be in next update

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Originally Posted by ATombRaiderFan

Just to report a few more bugs, all tomb4 related. Here's the save files for some of these issues if you would like them:

In Valley of the Kings, at the descent before the end of the level, there is something causing Lara's Jeep to get dragged around a bit. The same thing also happens near the end of KV5. (savegame.4)
At the start of KV5, when Lara approaches the enemy Land-Rover, it does not move. (savegame.5)
After KV5 ends, the cutscene Fmv04 does not play. (savegame.9)

There's a further two minor bugs that I thought is worth mentioning as well:

In Angkor Wat, after Werner gives you instructions on how to swing with a rope, he starts walking into a door without stopping. (savegame.11)
There's a texture oddity on the main menu, when the camera passes through the window.

Anyway, hope you don't mind the lengthy bug report. I'm having a lot of fun playing Last Revelation again

First I’m glad you’re enjoying playing the game again

that motivates me, somehow

yeah, the jeep bug is my fault, I noticed it yesterday and I’m working on fixing it

Enemy jeep not triggering is already fixed and will be in next release

I’ll check why the fmv doesn’t play, I always have them disabled so I never noticed

The thing with Werner is actually a level editing error and happens in the original as well, I’ll see if I can fix it through code but it’s unlikely
I’ll check the texture, thank you!

.snake. · 31-03-22, 14:55

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Originally Posted by Woops

this is an original bug, according to the internet, turning that one obelisk in that direction solves it:

will definitely fix it at a later time.

I must've replayed TR4 more times than I can count, and I've never encountered this bug

But it worked when I turned the obelisk to the side. Thank you for the advice! But it will be great if you can fix this permanently someday.

Not sure if this is a bug you can fix or if it is related to the level's sample files: But in Guardian of Semerkhet when Lara slides down the passages that lead to the door which triggers the bull, the fire burners in a neighboring secret room make a very strange "pulsing" noise (can be heard best when monkey swinging to that secret room). I was never sure if this was intentional or not, but it seems like a sound issue.

Also: I believe TRNG made it possible that audio tracks do not reset or stop when saving and reloading. Is there any way to make this possible for both the tomb4 and tomb5 projects, so that even if we save and reload, the audio is still playing where it left off?

ToMbRaIdErxFtW · 31-03-22, 22:09

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Originally Posted by Woops

Yep, will be in next update

Thank you Troye

Also, I wonder if its possible to increase the draw distance like Tomb1Main and TR2Main?

ATombRaiderFan · 01-04-22, 06:03

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Originally Posted by Woops

First I’m glad you’re enjoying playing the game again

that motivates me, somehow

yeah, the jeep bug is my fault, I noticed it yesterday and I’m working on fixing it

Enemy jeep not triggering is already fixed and will be in next release

I’ll check why the fmv doesn’t play, I always have them disabled so I never noticed

The thing with Werner is actually a level editing error and happens in the original as well, I’ll see if I can fix it through code but it’s unlikely
I’ll check the texture, thank you!

No problem, and thank you for hearing me out. I was planning to record a video of the Jeep bug, but it seems you're already familiar with the bug XD

It’ll be cool to see what you come up with for the Werner door bug, if you do find a way to resolve it with code. I’m also pleased to hear that you've got the other bugfixes covered

Jathom95 · 01-04-22, 18:23

I'm wondering if anyone else has ever ran into this, because I'm 99% this is a vanilla bug.

If you trigger the minotaur boss in Chambers of Tulun, you can actually get stuck at a certain part of the level. The building that you can only enter after getting the Nitrous upgrade actually lets you climb down into the basement before being able to explore the rest of the building. However, if you climb down there before you are able to get back out through the upper level, and have already triggered the minotaur - you can't climb back up because it keeps knocking you back down, as if you're on the ladder that leads up to Aziza. Effectively soft-locking the game.

I'm assuming once the boss is triggered it's only accounting on Lara being on "a" ladder, not which one besides the ones in the mosque as noted by snake below - but that's just a guess. But it's definitely repeatable. Has anyone else ever ran into this? Can it be fixed here?

.snake. · 01-04-22, 19:54

^ It's definitely a vanilla bug, and you are correct, one does get soft locked if that happens.

I believe it has something to do with how the Hammer God responds to ladders if there is a flat surface beneath them. Both the ladder leading to Citadel Gate, and the one in the fire sprinkler area you get soft-locked in, have a flat floor beneath them. But the ladder that's inside the mosque itself (the arena in which we lock him in) has sloped floor squares beneath it which is why he doesn't seem to want to attack her while she's climbing on that one.

I could be wrong, and maybe it isn't room geometry related at all. In which case I hope I'm wrong because then it might actually be fixable to make him only focus on the one ladder leading to Citadel Gate.

Woops · 01-04-22, 22:05

hi, i can fix it, but would you tell me which ladder it happens on that softlocks the game? I don't remember Cairo much :v

31-03-22, 10:48	#83
ATombRaiderFan Explorer Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 563	Just to report a few more bugs, all tomb4 related. Here's the save files for some of these issues if you would like them: In Valley of the Kings, at the descent before the end of the level, there is something causing Lara's Jeep to get dragged around a bit. The same thing also happens near the end of KV5. (savegame.4) At the start of KV5, when Lara approaches the enemy Land-Rover, it does not move. (savegame.5) After KV5 ends, the cutscene Fmv04 does not play. (savegame.9) There's a further two minor bugs that I thought is worth mentioning as well: In Angkor Wat, after Werner gives you instructions on how to swing with a rope, he starts walking into a door without stopping. (savegame.11) There's a texture oddity on the main menu, when the camera passes through the window. Anyway, hope you don't mind the lengthy bug report. I'm having a lot of fun playing Last Revelation again

01-04-22, 18:23	#88
Jathom95 Archaeologist Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: United States Posts: 1,482	I'm wondering if anyone else has ever ran into this, because I'm 99% this is a vanilla bug. If you trigger the minotaur boss in Chambers of Tulun, you can actually get stuck at a certain part of the level. The building that you can only enter after getting the Nitrous upgrade actually lets you climb down into the basement before being able to explore the rest of the building. However, if you climb down there before you are able to get back out through the upper level, and have already triggered the minotaur - you can't climb back up because it keeps knocking you back down, as if you're on the ladder that leads up to Aziza. Effectively soft-locking the game. I'm assuming once the boss is triggered it's only accounting on Lara being on "a" ladder, not which one besides the ones in the mosque as noted by snake below - but that's just a guess. But it's definitely repeatable. Has anyone else ever ran into this? Can it be fixed here? __________________ "Rodents, I wouldn't wonder. Big rodents." Last edited by Jathom95; 01-04-22 at 21:19.

01-04-22, 19:54	#89
.snake. Professor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: New York Posts: 3,910	^ It's definitely a vanilla bug, and you are correct, one does get soft locked if that happens. I believe it has something to do with how the Hammer God responds to ladders if there is a flat surface beneath them. Both the ladder leading to Citadel Gate, and the one in the fire sprinkler area you get soft-locked in, have a flat floor beneath them. But the ladder that's inside the mosque itself (the arena in which we lock him in) has sloped floor squares beneath it which is why he doesn't seem to want to attack her while she's climbing on that one. I could be wrong, and maybe it isn't room geometry related at all. In which case I hope I'm wrong because then it might actually be fixable to make him only focus on the one ladder leading to Citadel Gate. Last edited by .snake.; 01-04-22 at 20:10.

01-04-22, 22:05	#90
Woops Archaeologist Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Invercargill Posts: 1,499	hi, i can fix it, but would you tell me which ladder it happens on that softlocks the game? I don't remember Cairo much :v __________________ I like cats

31-03-22, 04:10	#82
ToMbRaIdErxFtW Historian Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: London, England Posts: 485	regarding the loading bar and loading text, is there any chance we could have it moved down lower towards the bottom of the screen like the PS1 version?