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Old 21-05-19, 18:54   #101
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OMG at people saying TRA was a good remake. People seriously need to play TR1 then TRA and then play RE1-REmake or RE2. That is how you make a good remake. You don't butcher the controls, the atmosphere or the level design, you only improve upon it. TRA had some improvements (a few levels do surpass the original, but only a small few) but overall it is clear it's made by someone with a shallow understanding of TR1 and what made it fun and memorable in the first place.

On another note: I don't think remasters will happen at all. The franchise is not in a place where it truly wants to celebrate its past, it is looking more to the future. There also is TRA's not so impressive sales, classics's controls would need to be thoughtfully planned out on how to be updated and keep the challenge of platforming in a good and organic way (which isn't an easy task), the exploration and puzzle solving gameplay is not what the GP is after, and honestly unless it was outsourced to a different company, I don't see the remasters/remakes being well received by fans at all, because we'll most likely just get TRA again.
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Old 21-05-19, 18:55   #102
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It’s common knowledge the gp is more inclined to buy more action heavy type of games, than something as niche as classic TR, which is why I think a remake in the likes of Anniversary and Nico would likely attract a broader audience
No you said Crash/Spyro are "more fun to play" from a gp point, yet those games aren't action heavy.
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Old 21-05-19, 18:55   #103
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If they remasters/remake these, and i absolutely want that happen, i expect a Core's TRAE sort of treatment, same animations with revamped controls, levels ripped from the originals and remastered.

Also what i think they may do, is use their Lara Croft series design for Lara, and the actual classic outfit would be a unlockable.

I'd still buy and enjoy it anyway.

Just please don't make everything grey and boring like Anniversary.
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Old 21-05-19, 18:58   #104
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Lol he's joking
Or am I?
ofc I am, d’oh
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Old 21-05-19, 19:05   #105
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Also what i think they may do, is use their Lara Croft series design for Lara, and the actual classic outfit would be a unlockable.

I'd still buy and enjoy it anyway.
God I hope not. If it's remasters of the classic games then I want them to include a faithful classic Lara. She can have new character models that look a little less ridiculously proportioned/more realistic, but still with Lara's actual features please. Just make a model based on either Andy Park's Lara or inspired by Angelina Jolie, that's perfect.

I wouldn't necessarily mind Keeley voicing Lara for them, but I know some people wouldn't like that and I too would prefer Jonell or a new actress who sounds like the old ones.

Again though I don't think these remasters need to be ridiculously high budget and have an expectation to sell millions. Not every game needs to have this weird tunnel-vision of wanting AAA production and success. Sometimes things can be made lower budget with a more niche market in mind, and I would want that for classic remasters, I don't want to see their identity and art style watered down to suit mainstream tastes. If you don't like the classics or wish to re-visit them then k cool, they're just not for you and that's why it's a niche game.

I do think they could benefit from sped-up animations and controls where possible though. If it's a 1:1 level recreation then the grid system probably has to remain in some capacity (albeit hopefully really well-disguised) but I want Lara to move through the world more smoothly and quickly.
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Old 21-05-19, 19:09   #106
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People can have their own taste and like TRA much better than TR1 Victor
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Old 21-05-19, 19:13   #107
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TRA is not a good game and doesn't count as a remake (imo) just a watered down version of TR1. And not faithful at all to the original.
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Old 21-05-19, 19:14   #108
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TRA is not a good game and doesn't count as a remake. Just a watered down version of TR1.
It is a good game and it was enjoyable playing it. Period.
What do you mean by faithful?
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Old 21-05-19, 19:17   #109
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OMG at people saying TRA was a good remake. People seriously need to play TR1 then TRA and then play RE1-REmake or RE2. That is how you make a good remake. You don't butcher the controls, the atmosphere or the level design, you only improve upon it. TRA had some improvements (a few levels do surpass the original, but only a small few) but overall it is clear it's made by someone with a shallow understanding of TR1 and what made it fun and memorable in the first place.
TRA is a good remake, and I've said this as well:

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It doesn't matter to the GP. They won't know the nuances . They'll pick up on the game - it has sexy big boobed Lara with funny atittude and duals. It has the T-Rex. It's set the same places .

Story changes, and whatnot, is something only the hardcore fans will notice.
Anniversary fulfills its role pretty well from the gp point of view, where they won't care about nunances vs the original games they don't even know or remember step by step

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TRA is not a good game and doesn't count as a remake (imo) just a watered down version of TR1. And not faithful at all to the original.
TRA is a good game, and this I can say with certainty. You may not like it as a hardcore fan vs TR1, but the game is pretty well polished and a mostly enjoyable adventure from beginning to end. And what do you mean with "watered down"? TR1 is a pretty simple game, and it doesn't hold the "difficulty" of, let's say, TRIII or IV either

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Old 21-05-19, 19:18   #110
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The extent some of you go to convince us that OG Lara is less liked than reboot Lara, when it is the general design of OG Lara that raised high brows.

Reintroducing OG Lara with a more human side to her is possible. She just does not have to mop, and be tormented every five seconds with violence porn.

Reboot Lara is far from being liked. The massive part of her likeliness is due to her name. Otherwise, she's been heavily criticized for how annoying she is.

They praised the fact that they could bring realistic emotions to her and another dimension, but that is all. OG Lara could benefit from that too.
AMEN!

The whole argument that classic Lara doesn't sell well based off of TRA or the cheaply done ported skins just don't make sense. TRA is NOT classic Tomb Raider and most certainly not Classic Lara, it's a reskinned Tomb Raider Legend that is a watered down imitation.

CD has NEVER made ANYTHING faithful to classic Tomb Raider, not GoL, not ToO, not TRA, not Frozen Omen, not anything. The closest thing to that would be Lara Croft Go, and it's still not there and we get no personality from Lara really.

That said, in order for a classic TR to succeed, through remaster or otherwise, it has to actually be CLASSIC and not some unfaithful imitation that is just similarly skinned.
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