Tomb Raider Forums  

Go Back   Tomb Raider Forums > Tomb Raider Series > Tomb Raider I-III Remastered

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 04-09-24, 23:45   #1241
SrDanielPonces
Member
 
SrDanielPonces's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 10,572
Default

tr6 wont happen because it's an unremasterable game. if you touch anything besides the graphical quality, then it stops being a remaster. if anything else but the graphics isn't touched, then it is a faulty product to be released to the public.

sure, it is being the most talked amongst the fans, and i'd looooove a complete TRAOD game, but common sense needs to be aplied here too
SrDanielPonces is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-24, 23:53   #1242
Mr Od
Member
 
Mr Od's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2024
Posts: 1,643
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SrDanielPonces View Post
tr6 wont happen because it's an unremasterable game. if you touch anything besides the graphical quality, then it stops being a remaster. if anything else but the graphics isn't touched, then it is a faulty product to be released to the public.

sure, it is being the most talked amongst the fans, and i'd looooove a complete TRAOD game, but common sense needs to be aplied here too
A remaster is also a restoration of a product, not merely updated graphics. Therefore, TR6R will happen, also considering, as already said a lot, that the plots of 4-5-6 are interwoven, and re-publishing only 4 and 5 would not make sense.
Mr Od is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-24, 03:48   #1243
SrDanielPonces
Member
 
SrDanielPonces's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 10,572
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Od View Post
A remaster is also a restoration of a product, not merely updated graphics. Therefore, TR6R will happen, also considering, as already said a lot, that the plots of 4-5-6 are interwoven, and re-publishing only 4 and 5 would not make sense.
your italian perception is full on wrong. i wish you the best recovery. btw aod lara will remain in forever history as the best looking lara croft. too bad the aliens wont meet her after the world explodes.
SrDanielPonces is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-24, 04:00   #1244
laracroftswest
Member
 
laracroftswest's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 4,954
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SrDanielPonces View Post
your italian perception is full on wrong. i wish you the best recovery. btw aod lara will remain in forever history as the best looking lara croft. too bad the aliens wont meet her after the world explodes.
RIP AoD Lara you had the best character model of them all

I agree though. AoD has challenges far beyond the scope of a remaster. But if they do decide to “restore” or “fix” it then I won’t be mad either.
laracroftswest is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-24, 08:56   #1245
Mr Od
Member
 
Mr Od's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2024
Posts: 1,643
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SrDanielPonces View Post
your italian perception is full on wrong. i wish you the best recovery. btw aod lara will remain in forever history as the best looking lara croft. too bad the aliens wont meet her after the world explodes.
I assure you that it is not just my "Italian perception", whatever it is. It is an etymological question: a re-master means that a product is "eked" and "bettered" according to the views of a new "master" (it has both meanings), so it may include both upgrade and restoration of both graphics and other elements.

Even Wikipedia says: "In a wider sense, remastering a product may involve other, typically smaller inclusions or changes to the content itself. They tend to be distinguished from remakes, based on the original".

Therefore, a re-make is a new product based upon the concept of the original; a re-master is the same original product which is subject to upgrade, improvement, and completion.

Last edited by Mr Od; 05-09-24 at 11:42.
Mr Od is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-24, 11:46   #1246
Teeth
Member
 
Teeth's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,142
Default

For TR3 they added moves, Willard's boss music, and even an extra cutscene. They've already broken the seal on this sort of thing so I'm sure nobody will complain if AoD gets polished.
Teeth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-24, 11:48   #1247
Mr Od
Member
 
Mr Od's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2024
Posts: 1,643
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teeth View Post
For TR3 they added moves, Willard's boss music, and even an extra cutscene. They've already broken the seal on this sort of thing so I'm sure nobody will complain if AoD gets polished.
Exactly, and think of all the new skylights and the completely new ceiling in that room in TR1 Palace Midas.
Mr Od is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-24, 11:53   #1248
omerocoti
Member
 
omerocoti's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 1,286
Default

They can advertise the games as 'Remastered and restored', that's it.

But, it will be sold as 'Remaster'.
omerocoti is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-24, 15:38   #1249
Tommy123
Member
 
Tommy123's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 14,436
Default

It would be wonderful if Angel of Darkness ever gets completed. I think that would be the first time a game like AOD gets re-released years later in a fixed state. Could possibly be a lot of good press.
Tommy123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-09-24, 15:55   #1250
Jathom95
Member
 
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 1,763
Default

I mean when it gets right down to it, a remaster is exactly what it states on the tin. In gaming's case, it refers to a re-mastering of the original game and assets for compatibility with modern hardware. We're just used to it accompanying a graphical overhaul alongside it as well nowadays.

There's absolutely nothing stating that a remaster has to only be the base vanilla games with no other notable improvements. And restorative projects like what AOD needs are a bit uncommon sure, but not completely unheard of either. Still marketed as remasters though, because it's still technically the original game - not a remake.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy123 View Post
It would be wonderful if Angel of Darkness ever gets completed. I think that would be the first time a game like AOD gets re-released years later in a fixed state. Could possibly be a lot of good press.
Exactly. If there's no other viable reason for including AOD, your last point is definitely the big one. As someone who started TR with AOD, I'll admit I would love for it to have a time to finally shine all fixed up and as polished gameplay and story-wise as possible for everyone to play.

But even if nothing else, the amount of press you'd get on that? Turning one of the biggest disasters in gaming on its head and making it actually fun to play through and experience? Oh yeah, that's definitely a good reason.

I think more than anything, it just needs to be reasonably laid out about what the game actually needs. Core fell into the trap of trying to fit all their ideas in at once, changing things constantly, and breaking other things in the process. It needs fixes first and foremost. Then from there, decide what the game actually needs. Refine features even if necessary. The unfinished nature of the game actually gives it a lot of leeway, because people won't be so beholden to what weren't particularly great implementations in the first place.
Jathom95 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT. The time now is 11:50.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Tomb Raider Forums is not owned or operated by CDE Entertainment Ltd.
Lara Croft and Tomb Raider are trademarks of CDE Entertainment Ltd.