Rise of the Tomb Raider Celebration Thread - Page 42

Valentino · 29-11-21, 17:48

Ughhhhh cringe. No ones talking like they know how a game should be made. I love that assets are reused! By all means! An easy development cycle is fantastic! Everything pointed out though hasn’t really been addressed. Crystal are really quite frivolous with their reuse. And like it’s been known, it stands out. Use the same assets! But build on top and evolve then maybe? Like I’m all for defending Crystal. But no ones really explaining anything to me. It’s just tired comments about who knows how games work and what not.

Tombraider95 · 29-11-21, 18:01

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Nah but in all seriousness, you all talking about animations couldn't make it more obvious that you have no idea how game development works.

The irony.

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Animations are super hard to make and tend to get reused often, as a result. Naughty Dog and Sony's animations are only so good because they put a crap ton amount of time into it, which is why you usually hear about their studios having to crunch.

So how come LAU have plenty of different/updated animations and were released yearly?

I'm not saying everything needs to be new. I'm talking about specific bad animations from the reboot which she shouldn't have in the 3rd installment. These could have been improved.

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Excusing the classics for reusing animations by saying that Lara was at her peak might be the dumbest thing I've ever heard. At least be consistent with your criticism.

That's a shame you didn't understand my point then

TrustyBow · 29-11-21, 18:20

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But no ones really explaining anything to me. It’s just tired comments about who knows how games work and what not.

Too bad. Do your own research if you're concerned.

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So how come LAU have plenty of different/updated animations and were released yearly?

Much shorter and less ambitious games. More cartoony graphics. Nowhere near the amount of gameplay depth as the reboot, meaning more time for animations.

Have you actually played these games because the answer to your own question seems obvious.

malferink · 29-11-21, 18:29

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Too bad. Do your own research if you're concerned.

Much shorter and less ambitious games. More cartoony graphics. Nowhere near the amount of gameplay depth as the reboot, meaning more time for animations.

Have you actually played these games because the answer to your own question seems obvious.

Why are you even attacking Valentino? He's literally agreeing with you. no need to be such a bitch about it

TrustyBow · 29-11-21, 18:37

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Why are you even attacking Valentino? He's literally agreeing with you. no need to be such a bitch about it

Im sure they're happy to see you fighting their battles for them.

Wasn't trying to be a bitch @Valentino. I respect Chloe way too much to do that.

Portugalraider · 29-11-21, 18:40

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Originally Posted by Valentino

Ughhhhh cringe. No ones talking like they know how a game should be made. I love that assets are reused! By all means! An easy development cycle is fantastic! Everything pointed out though hasn’t really been addressed. Crystal are really quite frivolous with their reuse. And like it’s been known, it stands out. Use the same assets! But build on top and evolve then maybe? Like I’m all for defending Crystal. But no ones really explaining anything to me. It’s just tired comments about who knows how games work and what not.

It's only that noticeable because this freaking fanbase has the weird obcession of scrutinizing everything CD does so they can complain about it afterwards.

Like seriously! The only thing is actually really noticeable and weird that is being reused is in RotTR right at the beginning of Syria, where they reuse the exact animations beat to bit from TR2013 of injured Lara falling down and noticing something ahead of her.

Everything else? Unless you are really looking you will never notice some building in both TR2013 and RotTR have the same layout, because they look and are used in different ways. Unless you are looking for changes in the animations you wouldn't be noticing they are the same. And of course they are the same! They are for the same character and by a studio who doesn't have the luxury of remaking literally every single asset just because.

Like seriously, come on. This is not new! Even Core reused assets! I don't know why this is such a topic. Are we really complaining that a company works smart? What's the problem here?

Brendanlovesu1 · 29-11-21, 19:06

Updates from the community stream so far

The Holidays have messed up the schedule for interviews and content, CD will be mostly out of the office until January.

The Shadow stream will likely be the first week of January

THE AOD ART HAS ARRIVED, IT'S IN GOLD LEAF

tlr online · 29-11-21, 19:34

Thanks for the updates, please keep them coming.

Brendanlovesu1 · 29-11-21, 20:20

Meagan has joined!

Both Lara Croft games will get their own streams in January, one mid month and one at the end. The devs and Meagan may be playing

There may be just chatting streams next year because the Cms enjoy the interaction w/ the community!

Brendanlovesu1 · 29-11-21, 20:58

Will Kearslake has joined!

The opening was supposed to be the jeep with an on the rails segment but that wasn't a natural tutorial level so the Avalanche was used instead

The Hagia Sophia was used as a reference for the cathedral

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Valentino Archaeologist Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,464	Ughhhhh cringe. No ones talking like they know how a game should be made. I love that assets are reused! By all means! An easy development cycle is fantastic! Everything pointed out though hasn’t really been addressed. Crystal are really quite frivolous with their reuse. And like it’s been known, it stands out. Use the same assets! But build on top and evolve then maybe? Like I’m all for defending Crystal. But no ones really explaining anything to me. It’s just tired comments about who knows how games work and what not.

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Brendanlovesu1 Archaeologist Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland Posts: 1,821	Updates from the community stream so far The Holidays have messed up the schedule for interviews and content, CD will be mostly out of the office until January. The Shadow stream will likely be the first week of January THE AOD ART HAS ARRIVED, IT'S IN GOLD LEAF

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tlr online Administrator Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 59,895	Thanks for the updates, please keep them coming.

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Brendanlovesu1 Archaeologist Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland Posts: 1,821	Meagan has joined! Both Lara Croft games will get their own streams in January, one mid month and one at the end. The devs and Meagan may be playing There may be just chatting streams next year because the Cms enjoy the interaction w/ the community!

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Brendanlovesu1 Archaeologist Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland Posts: 1,821	Will Kearslake has joined! The opening was supposed to be the jeep with an on the rails segment but that wasn't a natural tutorial level so the Avalanche was used instead The Hagia Sophia was used as a reference for the cathedral