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^To be fair, inconsistency is very common in CD's Tomb Raider games.
As for the comics not influencing the games enough, I'm a bit mixed on that. All the games do so reference the comics in the form of Easter Eggs ("Suicide in the tube") and a couple more that I can't think of now. I do think that the first few comic volumes are relevant because: 1. Rihanna Pratchett herself worked on a majority of these. 2. They show how reboot Lara could've been a much more well received character when portrayed properly. |
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Richard was definitely supposed to be portrayed as more of a rugged adventurer in the comics. In 'The Queen of Serpents' storyline, we see him in a flashback where hes portrayed as fit and handsome. The Queen of Serpents herself was obsessed with him, which I have a hard time believing given how he looks in Shadow
I don't know about the idea that he was on the level of Roth and Grim, though. Even in the comic, it was only implied that he was a charming, brave person that would risk going into danger if it meant getting what he was after. I don't think thats too much of a contradiction, if one at all. Quote:
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I like Richard. He's rather compelling in my opinion. Quote:
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That's my main point though; CD has always been rife with inconsistency and poor progression no matter what era you are talking about. Others are coming in trying to rationalise the inconsistencies and I don't think you can. If people want to take Rise Richard as the version of the character they want him to be than that is ok cause that's how he has been portrayed. But taking into account the reboot and the comics, which based on your points above we have to do, then he is inconsistently represented and you cannot explain that away other than poor writing and planning and I don't understand why people get so defensive of that. Like you said, it's rife. You can like a form of the character whilst still admitting there are inconsistencies. Pointing out the inconsistencies is not dragging or insulting Richard or CD... they're just there, undeniably. |
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The only true inconsistency with how Richard is portrayed between TR2013 and Rise/Shadow, imo, is how Roth describes him as someone who “never gave up”...when he was believed to have killed himself. That’s a glaring fault on the writer’s part, but it doesn’t stop me from headcanoning that maybe Roth didn’t think it was a suicide; after all, the only person Richard confided in about his vault was Roth, so it’s not unlikely he voiced his paranoia about Trinity to him as well, which would gain more credence after a man seemingly so determined (“you’re a Croft!”) would take his own life. But, of course, none of that’s in the game, it’s just my speculating. I don’t think there’s huge shift in his portrayal, especially since it was so vague in TR2013 to begin with. Quote:
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The suicide is a reference to the comics arc Secret and Lies wich end in London's Tube. The one thing I really like to ignore is the novel Ten Thousands Immortals. Besides of that the others comics I'm good with them. Last edited by Ellioft; 11-05-19 at 12:11. |
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11-05-19, 12:17 | #990 |
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Oh, I definitely agree Crystal struggle with ongoing narratives and there’s inconsistencies between games. It’s just the Richard thing I’ve seen people bring up before that I don’t think is bad as it’s made out to be.
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