Open TRNG Chat - Basic Questions, Inquiries, & Help Thread!

[Richard_trle]

Thank you very much AkyV!

Based on your answer I was able to do a little of testing and it seems that it is a bug. And it only happens with Fade Out (Very Long) and Fade In (Very Long).

Using Fade Out with any Fade In with any other Timer than Very Long works fine.

Using F85 with "Fade Out and Fade In (screen becomes black and then come back the light)" Extra and Very Long time also glitches out.

Once again, thank you very much!

[AkyV]

You are welcome!

[Stryke]

Has anyone had any luck in getting TokyoSU TR1 enemies to work? I'm scripting things correctly but things just don't work.

[Joe Derivative]

So, TRLE.net is for custom, fan-made levels based on TR1-5 engines and assets. Is there any website where fans put their NextGen levels? I haven't found one.

[MigMarado]

Originally Posted by Joe Derivative

So, TRLE.net is for custom, fan-made levels based on TR1-5 engines and assets. Is there any website where fans put their NextGen levels? I haven't found one.

NG levels aren't usually set apart from regular TR4 levels, so it just depends on the time they were released and on the builders who published each level.

[Joe Derivative]

Originally Posted by MigMarado

NG levels aren't usually set apart from regular TR4 levels, so it just depends on the time they were released and on the builders who published each level.

I thought they were TRAOD-LAU levels?

[MigMarado]

There are no such levels that I know of. There are levels using assets from more recent TR games, but the engines are always TR1-5 or, more recently, TEN (a TR5 inspired community engine with most TR1-5 assets and more).

[renspyro]

Hello! I have a little issue, I hope someone can help me

For my level in the final path, I want to be a timer that when it reaches zero, kills Lara in a simulated explosion.

I have already made my TriggerGroup command which is the following:

TriggerGroup=	9, $2000,80,$00B6, > ; Play Blown Up Animation
		$2000,63,$0001, > ; Kill Lara with Flames
		$2000,355,$1401; Flash Orange on Screen

But, when I add the GlobalTrigger, just starting the level Lara "explodes"

This is the command i wrote:

GlobalTrigger=	6, IGNORE, GT_SCREEN_TIMER_REACHED, 0, IGNORE, 9, IGNORE

I have tried disabling the GlobalTrigger in principle with another code:

GlobalTrigger=	6, FGT_DISABLED+FGT_SINGLE_SHOT, GT_SCREEN_TIMER_REACHED, 0, IGNORE, 9, IGNORE

And when the counter begins to count down, reactivate the GlobalTrigger with a Flipeffect Trigger but at the moment of doing so, the TriggerGroup is activated instantly

I even tried making a conditional TriggerGroup to add it in the Parameter flag of the GlobalTrigger, but the same result, the trigger goes on instantly.

I wonder what i'm doing wrong

[AkyV]

Hello!
The screen timer is also 0 in the moment when the level starts, that is why it explodes Lara in the first moment.
What I suggest (all of them aggregated):
- Instead having "zero timer" GlobalTrigger condition, use eg. "timer is 1" condition. Plus, the TriggerGroup to be activated by the GlobalTrigger must be something else: a Flipeffect to activate an Organizer.
In the Organizer, start with that 1 second slip. If that is over (i.e. when screen timer is 0), then the events you want will happen.
- It is complicated to trigger anything if Lara is dead. So, for example, even a tiny milli-second after her death, you cannot really trigger that orange flash.
My suggestion is the first event in the Organizer (i.e. when screen timer is 0) is the orange flash. After that place 1-2 tick frames for the next event, so the player won't recognize they happen not at the same time, but one after the other, it happens so fast. (For the third event: try another 1-2 frames. But flame and blowing are both killing commands, I am not sure which should happen sooner in the Organizer - try it.)
- And perhaps a single shot flag is also recommended, if you experience that GlobalTrigger starts the flash again and again while that "counter is 1" is true.

EDIT:
In this construction, you don't need FGT_DISABLED or a Flipeffect to activate the GlobalTrigger.

[renspyro]

Thank you so much for the feedback!

I'm quite new with NGLE and i didn't have any idea of the organizers, i tried this Organizer:

Organizer=	1, FO_TICK_TIME, IGNORE, 3, 11, 2, 9, 1, 10

Then a Flipeffect trigger for the organizer in the Global Trigger and it actually worked

After that, while i was checking in NG Center the _MNEMOMIC constants for a command i needed, i found this intresting command: GT_TRNG_G_TIMER_EQUALS and it's actually what i was trying to do without the organizer

Used in GlobalTrigger= command.
Enabled when the Global trng timer has same value set in Parameter field.
The value you type in Parameter field is in frame ticks, where 1 second = 30 frame ticks.
So if you want detect when a growing timer reaches 40 seconds you have to type "1200" , since 40 * 30 = 1200.

Remark: This global trigger works ONLY while the respective timer is running, this means it's not necessary (and neiter advisable) to use FGT_SINGLE_SHOT or FGT_SINGLE_SHOT_RESUMED flags.

I put a code like this:

GlobalTrigger=	6, IGNORE, GT_TRNG_G_TIMER_EQUALS, 1, IGNORE, 9, IGNORE

So as you suggested me, i put a 1 instead of the 0 to avoid instant activation, then i normally triggered the timer and it also worked!!

Now i have two ways to work with this style of timer triggers and i learned about the organizers. Thanks again!