General Tomb Raider Discussion - Page 3173

charmedangelin · 02-10-22, 00:57

DuckStation is a really good emulator to play classic TR. The gesture controls that allow you to swipe between buttons to allow multiple presses is a game changer. I just wish I could play TRLE on my phone now.

Xenomrph · 02-10-22, 01:36

I'm playing through TR1's Unfinished Business expansion pack and I'm halfway through it (just now starting the Atlantis stuff).

The ending to the Egypt stuff was, uh, abrupt and unsatisfying.

The room with the running cats on the walls was really great though and paired well with the music, easily a highlight of the Egypt stuff for me.

I just wanted to share that.

Xenomrph · 03-10-22, 09:39

Today I learned that there was a cross-sell promotion with Timex watches for 'Tomb Raider Chronicles, and the watch you can buy is actually featured in the game.

charmedangelin · 03-10-22, 21:49

Save crystals are brutal, I died in Tomb of Qualapec and had to start over because I was saving the crystal for later.

redfox45 · 03-10-22, 22:37

Being allowed to save whenever/wherever is a nice luxury but there really is nothing like those save crystal games where screwing up a jump can set you back 20 mins. Where you hold your breath mid jump and breathe a sigh of relief when Lara makes it. I've really grown to appreciate that feeling.
It really brings the vibe the game is going for to life. No substitute for it.

If they ever do remasters i'd love all the PS1 games to have a hard mode with a TR3 style save crystal system and reduced pickups.
TR3's is much better as it's completely up to the player how long they want to gamble with no safety net, and getting the reward of more crystals to abuse at the end of the game.

Xenomrph · 04-10-22, 01:45

Maybe I’m just Bad At Videogames these days but I just don’t have the free time to recoup 20 minutes because I screwed up a jump, I much prefer playing on the PC where I can save-scum to my heart’s content.

redfox45 · 04-10-22, 11:46

Yeah sadly I doubt many of us are young teenagers anymore and our free time is much more valuable and feeling like it was completely wasted is much more annoying.

Something classic TR has always been bad for is players getting stuck and not knowing what to do or where to go. Not many people these days are going to be willing to run around for hours making no progress but some fans would insist that is what makes classic TR classic TR.

Yuna´s Wish · 04-10-22, 11:59

It all comes down to what you want "progress" to be like. I am of those that can see progress where there seems to be none. Getting stuck is part of progressing. And the more stuck you are, the more fulfilled you feel when you find your path or the solution to your problem.

Progress for the sake of moving on and getting to the next cutscene is fine for a game that I'd play for 15-20 hours and never ever touch again. That's not what I want for TR, but I accept it's what Crystal wants, unfortunately.

Xenomrph · 04-10-22, 15:57

I mean, I’m not playing off of walkthrough videos for my current classic TR replays, but I’m not afraid to break them out if I feel I’m genuinely stuck and need a bit of a hint. I haven’t had to do it often, and otherwise it’s genuinely been me figuring it out as I go.

Im still saving a lot before tricky jumps because like I said I don’t have the time or patience to lose half an hour to a bad button press.

charmedangelin · 04-10-22, 17:52

Time is really relative tbh, I only play a game for a hour a day and it doesn't really bother me too much when I die. Failure isn't a step backwards necessarily, it's just another solution that doesn't solve the problem.

I don't look at games as I have to beat it, I look at games as a means to enjoy that hour I have in the day. If people change their outlook and perspective on gaming then they'd probably enjoy difficult games more.

02-10-22, 00:57	#31721
charmedangelin Tomb Raider Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: USA Posts: 20,689	DuckStation is a really good emulator to play classic TR. The gesture controls that allow you to swipe between buttons to allow multiple presses is a game changer. I just wish I could play TRLE on my phone now. __________________ Always Pondering

03-10-22, 21:49	#31724
charmedangelin Tomb Raider Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: USA Posts: 20,689	Save crystals are brutal, I died in Tomb of Qualapec and had to start over because I was saving the crystal for later. __________________ Always Pondering

03-10-22, 22:37	#31725
redfox45 Professor Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Temple of Xian Posts: 3,385	Being allowed to save whenever/wherever is a nice luxury but there really is nothing like those save crystal games where screwing up a jump can set you back 20 mins. Where you hold your breath mid jump and breathe a sigh of relief when Lara makes it. I've really grown to appreciate that feeling. It really brings the vibe the game is going for to life. No substitute for it. If they ever do remasters i'd love all the PS1 games to have a hard mode with a TR3 style save crystal system and reduced pickups. TR3's is much better as it's completely up to the player how long they want to gamble with no safety net, and getting the reward of more crystals to abuse at the end of the game. __________________ "They stay inside their little ponds" Last edited by redfox45; 03-10-22 at 22:39.

04-10-22, 11:46	#31727
redfox45 Professor Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Temple of Xian Posts: 3,385	Yeah sadly I doubt many of us are young teenagers anymore and our free time is much more valuable and feeling like it was completely wasted is much more annoying. Something classic TR has always been bad for is players getting stuck and not knowing what to do or where to go. Not many people these days are going to be willing to run around for hours making no progress but some fans would insist that is what makes classic TR classic TR. __________________ "They stay inside their little ponds"

04-10-22, 11:59	#31728
Yuna´s Wish Tomb Raider Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Argentina Posts: 15,917	It all comes down to what you want "progress" to be like. I am of those that can see progress where there seems to be none. Getting stuck is part of progressing. And the more stuck you are, the more fulfilled you feel when you find your path or the solution to your problem. Progress for the sake of moving on and getting to the next cutscene is fine for a game that I'd play for 15-20 hours and never ever touch again. That's not what I want for TR, but I accept it's what Crystal wants, unfortunately. __________________ Dressed in rage, inside my cage!

02-10-22, 01:36	#31722
Xenomrph Historian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 268	I'm playing through TR1's Unfinished Business expansion pack and I'm halfway through it (just now starting the Atlantis stuff). The ending to the Egypt stuff was, uh, abrupt and unsatisfying. The room with the running cats on the walls was really great though and paired well with the music, easily a highlight of the Egypt stuff for me. I just wanted to share that.

03-10-22, 09:39	#31723
Xenomrph Historian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 268	Today I learned that there was a cross-sell promotion with Timex watches for 'Tomb Raider Chronicles, and the watch you can buy is actually featured in the game.

04-10-22, 01:45	#31726
Xenomrph Historian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 268	Maybe I’m just Bad At Videogames these days but I just don’t have the free time to recoup 20 minutes because I screwed up a jump, I much prefer playing on the PC where I can save-scum to my heart’s content.

04-10-22, 15:57	#31729
Xenomrph Historian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 268	I mean, I’m not playing off of walkthrough videos for my current classic TR replays, but I’m not afraid to break them out if I feel I’m genuinely stuck and need a bit of a hint. I haven’t had to do it often, and otherwise it’s genuinely been me figuring it out as I go. Im still saving a lot before tricky jumps because like I said I don’t have the time or patience to lose half an hour to a bad button press.

04-10-22, 17:52	#31730
charmedangelin Tomb Raider Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: USA Posts: 20,689	Time is really relative tbh, I only play a game for a hour a day and it doesn't really bother me too much when I die. Failure isn't a step backwards necessarily, it's just another solution that doesn't solve the problem. I don't look at games as I have to beat it, I look at games as a means to enjoy that hour I have in the day. If people change their outlook and perspective on gaming then they'd probably enjoy difficult games more. __________________ Always Pondering