www.tombraiderforums.com

Go Back   www.tombraiderforums.com > Tomb Raider Series > Shadow of the Tomb Raider

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 23-07-19, 13:56   #11
AshesBorn
Professor
 
AshesBorn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Estonia
Posts: 3,636
Default

Just having much fewer NPCs, each with their own agenda and a memorable personality. Paititi was oversaturated with a bunch of generic people saying or asking for generic things. They felt like props.

I think it could've been more impactful to find Paititi half-destroyed because of what Lara did and then occasionally come across survivors who have their own **** to worry about and don't particularly care for Lara.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoraSakai View Post
A dark uninhabited jungle. The remains of a once great civilization, almost completely wiped out by Trinity. A once peaceful and loving people, forced to live deep underground in caves. Eventually becoming the Yaxil. When Lara takes the dagger at the beginning of the game she sets in motion a sequence of events that will lead towards a blood-moon-eclipse. An ancient magical event that will grant the Yaxil not only the power necessary to achieve vengeance against Trinity, but also wipe out the entire world and reclaim it as their own.

The only way to stop this is with the dagger and box, the combination of the two being the only thing strong enough to permanently wipe them out. Lara ultimately ends up having to help Trinity, as not doing so could potentially kill everyone on the planet, but part of her understands the Yaxil’s pain. This would also end up actually being a pay off to the hyped up “morally confused” Lara they kept yammering on about.
This sounds fantastic!
__________________
'In order to be irreplaceable, one must always be different' Coco Chanel
AshesBorn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-07-19, 13:59   #12
James_Rutland
Tomb Raider
 
James_Rutland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Essex
Posts: 11,047
Default

I would have loved a large Jungle at sunset (and night) hub with Mayan Temples that you can explore and insane views.
James_Rutland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-07-19, 16:14   #13
tomee
Tomb Raider
 
tomee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Hungary
Posts: 14,705
Default

I can only guess, but I feel like Paititi and the subplot of Paititi was created before EM created Shadow. It's like they had this concept and they had to shoehorn it into a Tomb Raider game. The whole Trinity controlling it from within and as everyone says the way it's out in the open...

Personally I would've discarded the whole plot of the city, possibly the inhabitants as well and just have the Yaaxil roam the ruins.

Alternatively they could've put Paititi in a remote area. Think something like the Darien Gap in Panama/Colombia which has no road networks and it's overrun by paramilitary forces. These gunmen being part of trinity/being manipulated by Trinity would've made so much more sense than them trying to control this random indigenous town that's a 10 minute trek away from the modern world.
__________________
My signature was removed because it was vulgar. Now I can't choose my own till March 2014. If I edit this one I will be suspended till March 2014.
tomee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-07-19, 22:19   #14
OrangeJuice
Archaeologist
 
OrangeJuice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: hangin out with janice and that drug dealer
Posts: 1,484
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnanonymouz View Post
I would have preferred a vast and deep jungle in the size of Paititi. Full of dangerous animals, beautiful sights and tombs. Not a single person in sight.
this.

Quote:
Originally Posted by tomee View Post
Personally I would've discarded the whole plot of the city, possibly the inhabitants as well and just have the Yaaxil roam the ruins.
also this.
__________________
"i could not care less about lara's stupid ass dad." - kapu.
OrangeJuice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-07-19, 22:32   #15
Patrick star
Tomb Raider
 
Patrick star's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Syria
Posts: 12,196
Default

Many great ideas in this thread , all a thousand times better and more interesting than what we ended up getting . I vote for the Kitezh treatment , that is how you build up the discovery of a place truly hidden and reveal its grandeur at the end .

A ruined Paititi (whether positioned somewhere genuinely remote , isolated and extremely far away from any modernity like tomee suggested or buried deep under some ivy-covered caves filled with only Yaxxil and vicious wildlife) would've been super amazing , both from a gameplay and narrative perspective , because it would require a total re-write of the plot , which means no Uniratu , no insufferable Etzli , no embarrassing reduction of Trinity and its leader to Paititi babysitters , no incredibly boring NPCs or their noisy blabbing in the background and most importantly no Lara white-knighting and being everyone's obedient good friend .
__________________
The extraordinary is in what we do , not in our hairstyle...
Patrick star is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-07-19, 23:34   #16
Blackmoor
Tomb Raider
 
Blackmoor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: In the woods at night (female)
Posts: 12,762
Default

For me, I'd have liked something like this.......



Abandoned in the middle of thick forest. Something grand, ancient and inexplicable that NOBODY understood, even the local people who hadn't built it and knew only myths of the original creators.

Any native people we came across would have been hostile and not easily won over.

Our job would have been to work out the mystery of the site not bond with the locals in order to defeat the evil forces.

Our relationship with others seeking the same answers would have been more complex than just "these are the bad guys and Lara must get the *thing* before they wreck the world".

And personally I wouldn't have minded if there were time travel involved and Lara went back to when the site was populated and we saw it in it's pristine state - completely different from the shell it is now. With roads and canals and maybe even machinary and technology (I'd have preferred a more advanced civlisation than the one shown in Shadow). And maybe even saved someone from a ritual sacrifice at the top of a pyramid as in the original trailer..............
__________________
Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts - Richard Feynman ●
Blackmoor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-07-19, 08:49   #17
Raider8
Student
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 144
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackmoor View Post
.... And maybe even saved someone from a ritual sacrifice at the top of a pyramid as in the original trailer..............
I was highly expecting this badass moment to happen in the game. Turned out nothing did.
Raider8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-07-19, 08:51   #18
jackoimina
Explorer
 
jackoimina's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Zagreb, Croatia
Posts: 726
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackmoor View Post
post
Yes, if we're talking complete alternative to Paititi i the game than this is it. I mean for a tomb raiding game set in amazon jungle we never got to see a single pyramid up close, climb on it etc. I'm not counting the one in Cozumel, I wanted a pyramid in the jungle. Also yes, was expecting to have to stop at least one ritual sacrifice xD
__________________
The extraordinary is in what we do, not who we are.
jackoimina is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-07-19, 11:23   #19
Ellioft
Professor
 
Ellioft's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: France
Posts: 2,927
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jackoimina View Post
Yes, if we're talking complete alternative to Paititi i the game than this is it. I mean for a tomb raiding game set in amazon jungle we never got to see a single pyramid up close, climb on it etc. I'm not counting the one in Cozumel, I wanted a pyramid in the jungle. Also yes, was expecting to have to stop at least one ritual sacrifice xD
We actualy climb a pyramid at the end of the game. The place when the boss attack us is a pyramid. And there's actually a sacrifice on it.
__________________
Whatever I do with my life. The moon remains constant in the sky.
Ellioft is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-07-19, 11:40   #20
_Seth
Explorer
 
_Seth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: England ♂
Posts: 909
Default

An underground long forgotten city of ruins and ancient monuments, with its once-beauty still visible beneath the overgrowth of plants, moss, and erosion. Think Uncharted 2's Shambala, but underground, dirtier and more desolate.
__________________
Seeing Is Believing
_Seth is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT. The time now is 10:39.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.