The General Metal Gear Solid Thread

[Xilurm]

What does that mean for the MGS1 port I wonder. Did they lose the code to that as well?

[Mad Tony]

Originally Posted by DragonSlayer

While I knew that some changes were made to MGS2 after 9/11 I never knew until today that MGS2 was almost cancelled, if it had been me I would have released MGS2 unedited, MGS2 was in development long before 9/11 and it's an unfortunate coincidence that scenes involving buildings being knocked over were in the game.

I would have put the disclaimer often seen at the end of movies, this is a work of fiction any similarities to persons living or dead, or actual events and this other disclaimer that I found when I googled the disclaimer above, the story, all names characters and incidents portrayed in this production are fictitious. No identification with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings and products is intended or should be inferred.

I would have put that at the start of the game and before the start of Raiden's part of the game and again at the end credits so there would be no confusion and so that it would be crystal clear that MGS2 is a work of fiction.

I'm not surprised - a lot of people on here are probably too young to remember it now but 9/11 had a huge impact on popular culture and in the years afterward video games, movies and TV were very keen to avoid any sort of reference to it or the World Trade Center.

I never knew that, I watched the making of MGS2 DVD that came with the game AFAIK Iraq and nuclear weapons inspections wasn't mentioned on the DVD I'll have to watch it again at some point, I'll check the IMDB page for MGS2 later there might be some mention of it there.

Originally Posted by redfox45

The original MGS2 story took place in Iraq and was about nuclear weapons inspections.

It was only an initial plan - I don't think it ever got past the initial stages.

[redfox45]

Originally Posted by Mad Tony

It was only an initial plan - I don't think it ever got past the initial stages.

Most likely, what was definitely scrapped due to 9/11 though was the cutscene of Arsenal Gears crash into Manhatten.
There is an unused 3D model of it in 'The Document of MGS2'

Completely understandable as it would have been very insensitive to show half of Manhattan being bowled over so soon after the attacks. And it explains the weirdly abrupt transition to Federal Hall.

[dg1995]

1.Some of MGS 2 dialogues were changed after 9/11 based on what I have heard.
Raiden was supposed to have a "Is he[Solidus] a terrorist ?" dialogue that got removed.

2.The cutscene of arsenal gear crashing in Manhattan was also removed.

3.The Twin towers were supposed to appear in the game but were removed.

4.Some American flags were also removed in the final section from what I have heard.

And No. The whole Iraq setting was scrapped early in development.(Around 1999)

Originally Posted by DragonSlayer

Even if the story of MGS is dumb it was still unnecessary to add new scenes for the sake of adding new scenes that don't add anything to the game, AFAIK both in the games and movies James Bond has never backflipped off a missile in mid air.

Backflipping off a missile in mid air is something I'd expect to see in the Mission Impossible movies or the Fast and the Furious movies, Tom Cruise would be crazy enough to want to try it, if a car can go to Outer Space in F9S most OTT ridiculous scene then both Tom Cruise and Vin Diesel could backflip off a missile Tom Cruise is more likely to do it than Vin Diesel.

MGS Delta Snake Eater remake leaves MGS4 remaster in a tricky spot
https://www.theloadout.com/metal-gea...-mgs4-remaster

But James Bond backflipped his car in one of the 007 movies.(The movie where he had the car that could turn invisible)

[DragonSlayer]

Originally Posted by dg1995

1.Some of MGS 2 dialogues were changed after 9/11 based on what I have heard.
Raiden was supposed to have a "Is he[Solidus] a terrorist ?" dialogue that got removed.

2.The cutscene of arsenal gear crashing in Manhattan was also removed.

3.The Twin towers were supposed to appear in the game but were removed.

4.Some American flags were also removed in the final section from what I have heard.

And No. The whole Iraq setting was scrapped early in development.(Around 1999)

But James Bond backflipped his car in one of the 007 movies.(The movie where he had the car that could turn invisible)

If you are referring to the scene where his car is upside down and he uses the ejector seat to flip it over I'd forgotten about that scene it's been quite a while since I last saw Die Another Day also the invisible car is one of my favourite Bond gadgets, the criticism the stealth car got always me who wouldn't want an invisible car it'd be the ultimate in anti-theft technology, the only other car I want more than the stealth car is the Tumbler from The Dark Knight trilogy.

[CheshireBitch]

Originally Posted by Xilurm

You don't need to change camo every few seconds. Only when you want to get close to an enemy. You don't even need to ever change it during the game.



There are no confirmed platforms for the collection yet, which is weird since it's coming out in a few months.

Thank you for your answer ! Let's hope for a PC version then !