Larson & Pierre DuPont double deaths

djklink20009 · 04-01-13, 09:45

ok something is really bugging me that has just come to my attention after playing tomb raider chronicles again for the 100th time

i don't know if this has been answered before it probably has but i couldn't find it..

Larson and Pierre

why do they die in tomb raider 1 and seem to die in this game too (tomb raider 5) maybe not so much Larson as he is just thrown across a garden but Pierre is personally dropped 50+ feet and you even here him thud the ground

if anyone has the official explanation as to why these two are seemingly killed twice, i would like to know

LuigiEspadachin · 04-01-13, 09:58

I don't think there was an official explanation. Core just made a mistake placing Rome before TR1, although I suppose it dosen't make sense no matter where you put it.

Personally I like to think that Natla had her eye on both of them for a while and brought them back to life with some Atlantean magic doohickey. On the condition they work for her. Although with Larson you could probably write off as just being seriously hurt maybe and fleeing while Lara was dealing with the dragons.

DeadlyBishop · 04-01-13, 10:51

this has been discussed so many times, the conclusion we all have to take is that the designers didn't care about being logic and thus made a mistake. Some people still try to get things fixed so it could be possible but it really doesn't matter as it was a mistake

Boobandie · 04-01-13, 11:06

Official timeline put's Rome's events before TR1. Both Pierre and Larson's 'deaths' in TRC are survivable, then Lara guns them both down in TR1.

It's really not hard to grasp.

TR-Freak · 04-01-13, 11:07

We actually don't know if Larson died in TR5.
He just got thrown by the Hydra. Not deadly imo.
The same for Pierre. You hear him thud, but sometimes you survive very long falls....

sackboy123 · 04-01-13, 11:08

Pierre could have survived that fall but broke his leg and someone came and helped him possibly by Natla

djklink20009 · 04-01-13, 13:27

ok thanx guys, i just think its funny because core did make alot of mistakes back then specially when they started on angel of darkness

lord gaga · 04-01-13, 18:21

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Originally Posted by sackboy123

Pierre could have survived that fall but broke his leg and someone came and helped him possibly by Natla

Maybe they were already working for her and they were just testing Lara with this mission?

Roux · 04-01-13, 19:16

Nah, I think they're just old friends. It sort of explains how they both ended up working for Natla.

In TR1 Larson and Pierre get shot to hell and back by Lara, yet they keep coming back for more. If a spray of bullets took forever to kill them, it isn't hard to believe they could survive a long fall and a hydra attack.

Chronicles was a lot more light hearted in it's execution, so the 'deaths' between these two could easily be handwaved.

peeves · 05-01-13, 23:58

IMO Pierre and Larson didn't die in TR5 since Rome was set before TR1. Pierre fell in the pit and broke his leg he was hospitalized and recovered from his fall larson was thrown back by the serpents but wasn't really hurt nevermind killed. Larson conway and pierre dupont didn't officially die until TR1.

04-01-13, 09:45	#1
djklink20009 Historian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Plymouth Posts: 287	Larson & Pierre DuPont double deaths ok something is really bugging me that has just come to my attention after playing tomb raider chronicles again for the 100th time i don't know if this has been answered before it probably has but i couldn't find it.. Larson and Pierre why do they die in tomb raider 1 and seem to die in this game too (tomb raider 5) maybe not so much Larson as he is just thrown across a garden but Pierre is personally dropped 50+ feet and you even here him thud the ground if anyone has the official explanation as to why these two are seemingly killed twice, i would like to know __________________ "I am you with the flaws removed" Last edited by djklink20009; 04-01-13 at 09:55.

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LuigiEspadachin Archaeologist Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: England Posts: 1,755	I don't think there was an official explanation. Core just made a mistake placing Rome before TR1, although I suppose it dosen't make sense no matter where you put it. Personally I like to think that Natla had her eye on both of them for a while and brought them back to life with some Atlantean magic doohickey. On the condition they work for her. Although with Larson you could probably write off as just being seriously hurt maybe and fleeing while Lara was dealing with the dragons. __________________ "Start all over. You should be banned from every game" Last edited by LuigiEspadachin; 04-01-13 at 10:02.

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DeadlyBishop Explorer Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Belgium Posts: 909	this has been discussed so many times, the conclusion we all have to take is that the designers didn't care about being logic and thus made a mistake. Some people still try to get things fixed so it could be possible but it really doesn't matter as it was a mistake __________________ Pistols are the most reliable weapons in the series .........

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sackboy123 Tomb Raider Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: The Entity's Realm Posts: 16,878	Pierre could have survived that fall but broke his leg and someone came and helped him possibly by Natla __________________ Outstanding Dead by Daylight Player

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djklink20009 Historian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Plymouth Posts: 287	ok thanx guys, i just think its funny because core did make alot of mistakes back then specially when they started on angel of darkness __________________ "I am you with the flaws removed"

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Boobandie Professor Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 4,267	Official timeline put's Rome's events before TR1. Both Pierre and Larson's 'deaths' in TRC are survivable, then Lara guns them both down in TR1. It's really not hard to grasp.

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TR-Freak Unverified User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Deutschland Posts: 5,140	We actually don't know if Larson died in TR5. He just got thrown by the Hydra. Not deadly imo. The same for Pierre. You hear him thud, but sometimes you survive very long falls....

04-01-13, 19:16	#9
Roux Historian Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: England Posts: 325	Nah, I think they're just old friends. It sort of explains how they both ended up working for Natla. In TR1 Larson and Pierre get shot to hell and back by Lara, yet they keep coming back for more. If a spray of bullets took forever to kill them, it isn't hard to believe they could survive a long fall and a hydra attack. Chronicles was a lot more light hearted in it's execution, so the 'deaths' between these two could easily be handwaved. __________________ "From this moment, your every breath is a gift from me." Last edited by Roux; 04-01-13 at 19:19.

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peeves Sage Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In a place with all the TR games except Chronicles Posts: 65,567	IMO Pierre and Larson didn't die in TR5 since Rome was set before TR1. Pierre fell in the pit and broke his leg he was hospitalized and recovered from his fall larson was thrown back by the serpents but wasn't really hurt nevermind killed. Larson conway and pierre dupont didn't officially die until TR1. __________________ TR1 - TR8 + TRAR NLNMAS completed and TR2, 5, and 6R, 7ORC NMAS Last edited by peeves; 05-01-13 at 23:59.