Bartoli's Hideout sunset effect

Woops · 10-05-20, 19:12

Found out about it today, thought it was worth sharing

Lwmte and Raildex found this btw, I only recorded it-

This is not a mod! it happens in all TR2 versions!
(as you can see) the video is sped up, it normally takes ~20 minutes to fully take effect.

Unfortunately this effect is only available in Bartoli's Hideout :/

also it doesn't appear to work on PSX at all

Here are pictures to compare it, to make it clearer:

Light:

Dark:

tomblover · 10-05-20, 19:16

Oh, what? Did anyone know about this?

What a shame that this effect wasn't used in any other levels - though I guess for the Venice section it makes the most sense, since time is shown to have passed between each level.

Imagine this in TR3 with the colored lighting, though...

Woops · 10-05-20, 19:22

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Originally Posted by tomblover

Oh, what? Did anyone know about this?

What a shame that this effect wasn't used in any other levels - though I guess for the Venice section it makes the most sense, since time is shown to have passed between each level.

Imagine this in TR3 with the colored lighting, though...

I immediately thought about TR3 too.. imagine it in Nevada!

**ANoDE** · 10-05-20, 19:23

Wig officially snatched! Great find - I had no idea!

tomblover · 10-05-20, 19:29

Have we figured out how this was achieved in the engine at all?

**ANoDE** · 10-05-20, 19:38

My mind is spinning right now. Is it a feature of the engine? Was it used elsewhere? Is it some kind if flipeffect? Could this still be in the TRLE version of the engine?

Arsunt · 10-05-20, 19:53

Woops reported me today that this effect is broken in TR2Main. I'll fix it as soon as possible. Thank you, Woops!

P.S. I knew that this effect is presented in the TR2 engine, but I've never seen how it exactly works. It seems with no tests, I've broken the feature while decompiling.

Greenapple968 · 10-05-20, 20:22

So what is the deal here? If you loiter in Bartoli's Hideout for long enough then the level becomes darker than usual? Is there a productive use for this, or is it nothing more than a difference in appearance? This certainly is an interesting discovery and it's quite peculiar why this would happen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woops

I immediately thought about TR3 too.. imagine it in Nevada!

TR3 is dark enough as it is!

Athukraz · 10-05-20, 20:36

This is amazing

Greenapple968 · 10-05-20, 20:42

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Originally Posted by Athukraz

This is amazing

Would you go to the extent of calling this amazing? It certainly is an interesting find, but I can't see this being of any kind of use. I'm not trying to take anything away from this discovery; I just wouldn't go to the extent of calling this amazing.

10-05-20, 19:12	#1
Woops Archaeologist Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Invercargill Posts: 1,436	Bartoli's Hideout sunset effect Found out about it today, thought it was worth sharing Lwmte and Raildex found this btw, I only recorded it- This is not a mod! it happens in all TR2 versions! (as you can see) the video is sped up, it normally takes ~20 minutes to fully take effect. Unfortunately this effect is only available in Bartoli's Hideout :/ also it doesn't appear to work on PSX at all Here are pictures to compare it, to make it clearer: Light: Dark: __________________ I like cats Last edited by Woops; 10-05-20 at 19:28.

10-05-20, 19:23	#4
ANoDE Golden Join Date: May 2005 Location: Austria Posts: 6,642	Wig officially snatched! Great find - I had no idea! __________________ ~ Die Welt? Ein Tor. Zu tausend Wüsten, stumm und kalt. ~

10-05-20, 19:38	#6
ANoDE Golden Join Date: May 2005 Location: Austria Posts: 6,642	My mind is spinning right now. Is it a feature of the engine? Was it used elsewhere? Is it some kind if flipeffect? Could this still be in the TRLE version of the engine? __________________ ~ Die Welt? Ein Tor. Zu tausend Wüsten, stumm und kalt. ~

10-05-20, 19:53	#7
Arsunt Historian Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Russia Posts: 370	Woops reported me today that this effect is broken in TR2Main. I'll fix it as soon as possible. Thank you, Woops! P.S. I knew that this effect is presented in the TR2 engine, but I've never seen how it exactly works. It seems with no tests, I've broken the feature while decompiling. __________________ To seek. To learn. To do. (C) Quest for Glory

10-05-20, 19:16	#2
tomblover Legend Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 26,007	Oh, what? Did anyone know about this? What a shame that this effect wasn't used in any other levels - though I guess for the Venice section it makes the most sense, since time is shown to have passed between each level. Imagine this in TR3 with the colored lighting, though...

10-05-20, 19:29	#5
tomblover Legend Join Date: May 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 26,007	Have we figured out how this was achieved in the engine at all?

10-05-20, 20:36	#9
Athukraz Relic Hunter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Clown Manor Posts: 8,073	This is amazing